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Jurgen believes Baby Brads should stay a CAM
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:32 pm
Seriously... what the frick? No, Jurgen, he's a box-to-box guy.
LINK
Damn...
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"The role that he ideally plays for me as a coach is an advanced role on the field,” Klinsmann said, “where he gets close to the opponent’s 18-yard box, gets into the 18 yards, maybe scores goals, maybe plays a decisive ball, and has these brilliant moments and connects the dots higher up the field.”
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“I have spoken to Jurgen,” Vanney said during TFC’s final media availability of the season in October. “Most of the conversation, to be fair, was Jurgen telling me how he thinks Michael should be played, and my conversations are more with Michael and how Michael feels he should be played.
“I think Jurgen feels he is a player who should be higher up the field, but I don’t know that Jurgen and Michael see things exactly eye to eye.”
Damn...
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:42 pm to Broski
Jurgen is going to push out another USMNT great...
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:58 pm to Broski
Like seriously. I'm fricking pissed right now. Is Jurgen retarded? Bradley shows brilliant flashes every once in a while at CAM, but he is usually not good at all. And he has been PERFECT as a box-to-box CM for us. I could see if you thought he was an average box-to-box CM and he could be a great CAM, but he is already phenomenal at that central role. I would show footage of him to any youth player I was trying to teach how to play.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 12:00 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:58 am to Broski
Oh well.
So who will be taking MB's roster spot for 2018?
So who will be taking MB's roster spot for 2018?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:29 am to LuckyTiger
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So who will be taking MB's roster spot for 2018?
An average career MLS player with a good left or an 18 year old German.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:39 am to Vicks Kennel Club
I know we're all joking, but in terms of makeup/personality, LD and MB couldn't be further apart. Bradley's talk of "suffering" leading into the World Cup was borderline masochistic. He's probably Jurgen's favorite non German player and maybe his favorite period.
Maybe Jurgen is trying to develop MBs game. Looking for something here, because I ain't seeing what he's seeing.
Maybe Jurgen is trying to develop MBs game. Looking for something here, because I ain't seeing what he's seeing.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:48 am to Stewie Griffin
Before I get dragged down with the "BROSKI HATES JK BECAUSE HE CUT LD" posts that inevitably are about to rain down, let it be known that I made this thread without event thinking about relating this to Donovan.
I made this purely out of confusion. There is no way in hell Jurgen watched Bradley in the advanced role he played in Brazil and thought "Hmmm... I may be on to somezing hea."
Going forward, I always just assumed Mix would be Dempsey's heir apparent (sooner rather than later, may I add) with Bradley shifting back to his regular box-to-box role.
I made this purely out of confusion. There is no way in hell Jurgen watched Bradley in the advanced role he played in Brazil and thought "Hmmm... I may be on to somezing hea."
Going forward, I always just assumed Mix would be Dempsey's heir apparent (sooner rather than later, may I add) with Bradley shifting back to his regular box-to-box role.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:49 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:09 am to SwaggerCopter
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Is Jurgen retarded?
no
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:46 am to Broski
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"Hmmm... I may be on to somezing hea."
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 2:47 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:26 am to Broski
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There is no way in hell Jurgen watched Bradley in the advanced role he played in Brazil and thought "Hmmm... I may be on to somezing hea."
The problem with that, in my opinion, is that he's capable of playing that position. I think a big part of Bradley's performance was the roster shake-up that went down. I know he's a box-to-box guy, but moving forward, it wouldn't hurt for him to get comfortable in that role. He's capable of creating magic at any point. The ball he put up for Fabian against Turkey was downright disgusting. He's our best box-to-box mid, but with Jermaine Jones stepping up, I think Jurgen sees it as a chance to put his playmakers further up the field.
I know he's best suited at the #8, but honestly, I don't think we have a standout #10. That is, until Gedion gets his shite together and becomes the next big thing. At this point, we have a ton of people with the same strengths. In the case of the World Cup, Bradley was the only guy in the central diamond who can show flashes of making insane plays. I'd rather him up there than Bedoya. With Jones and Beckerman holding shite down at the World Cup, it'd have been nice to have sat Bradley next to Jones run shite in the mid. Jozy going down fricked our gameplan hard.
Personally, I think Jurgen's just looking in the near future for this. Everyone saw how uncomfortable Bradley was at the #10 right up until his final minutes of the tournament when he decided to show people what he could do. I don't see a clear #10 at the moment, and I think Jurgen wants him to be comfortable there.
That said, I'm a huge Baby Bradley fanboy so this better all work itself out.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 7:31 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:31 am to Dijkstra
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I know he's best suited at the #8, but honestly, I don't think we have a standout #10.
We would have been much better served over the past year to have Beckerman (or Jones) and Bradley sit behind Donovan, or even a Feilhaber or a Nguyen than to shoehorn Bradley into a role he's A. not good at (yet) and B. not really familiar with at the club or country level. Remember that the first time Bradley really played that role was the Turkey friendly.
Of course all of that would involve Jurgen trusting a player from MLSpecial Olympics - so that's a no-go.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:33 am to Dijkstra
Agreed. He would have done much better with a better cast around him. A healthy Jozy for one or an actual target forward and not Deuce masquerading as one. And some speed on the wings to open shite up and create space. Zusi and Bedoya aren't exactly going to stretch things out
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:43 am to Sheep
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than to shoehorn Bradley into a role he's A. not good at (yet) and B. not really familiar with at the club or country level. Remember that the first time Bradley really played that role was the Turkey friendly.
I agree with that. I just think that moving forward he could do well with minutes at that position, which is what I think is what Jurgen is getting at in the interview. He wants to Bradley to get comfortable playing there, which only adds insane flexibility to his game.
Bradley's at his best when he's sitting back a bit dishing it to guys making runs. Those passes to Fabian and Julian weren't anomalies. The problem is that we really just didn't have anyone making solid runs at the World Cup once Jozy went down. Clint's just not that type of player, and Aron was injured.
We're in a weird transitional state in US Soccer. We're on the verge of becoming a truly great (read: "competitive") footballing nation. I think the biggest issue is that no one is able to see what Jurgen is doing or what his thought process on it is at the moment. If we head into the next major tournament and shite the bed, I think it'll be time to really discuss the direction we're going. Right now, I think Jurgen's just playing mad scientist and dreaming of Brad Davis's left foot.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 7:44 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:56 am to etm512
I wouldn't use the WC to gauge whether he could play it since we were not at full strength . If jurgy did this a year ago I could be on board. Right now it's just not smart. beckerdreads and jermaine have very little life left. Cameron could play the box to box guy but we need more than him. And we have some younger guys who could potentially play CAM.
Bradley is the best player on our team as the box to box guy. If we have almost as good players to fill that role and allow him to exert his influence elsewhere where we are weak - I'm for it. But I don't see that as the case here.
Bradley is the best player on our team as the box to box guy. If we have almost as good players to fill that role and allow him to exert his influence elsewhere where we are weak - I'm for it. But I don't see that as the case here.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:08 am to Tigerstark
CAM? Central Midfielder?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:17 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Central Attacking Mid. Plays behind the striker
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:18 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
try to figure it out for yourself you old bastard.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:19 am to etm512
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Central Attacking Mid. Plays behind the striker
I doubt it would be as a true #10 slotted behind a #9 striker
Maybe more with 2 up top and Brads at the top of a diamond midfield.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:03 am to Sheep
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We would have been much better served over the past year to have Beckerman (or Jones) and Bradley sit behind Donovan, or even a Feilhaber or a Nguyen than to shoehorn Bradley into a role he's A. not good at (yet) and B. not really familiar with at the club or country level. Remember that the first time Bradley really played that role was the Turkey friendly.
I really wish Donovan or Feilhaber had been given greater chances. Donovan was sick nasty as the #10 in the Gold Cup and I think would have done a better job than MB90 in the 10 role. I love Bradley but his touch is his greatest weakness. He's a physical player who is great defending deep, working hard up and down the field, providing a threat on set pieces, making late runs into the box, and sending balls downfield... at times he's downright Pirlo-esque with his balls over the top (see: Belgium, Turkey, Nigeria, etc.). Also, Sheep, Bradley played that 10 role against Mexico and destroyed them, but it wasn't the strongest Mexican side and I think Jurgen has been stuck in that mindset ever since.
Going forward I would like to see how Nguyen looks in the 10 role. I think he's the closest thing we have there at the time being.
Also, I agree with other posters that Jozy going down fricked us hard. Clint was going to be our #10 and would have done a better job there than Bradley, IMO. I also think Bradley would have done better if we had used a 2-forward set up instead of a lone striker set up, especially after Jozy went down (since Clint's hold up play is not nearly as good... Jozy still looks better in a 2 man set up but that's a whole other argument). Having 2 outlets instead of 1 in Clint would have helped him greatly, especially since our opponents knew Bradley would be quasi-isolated and easily shut out of the game with quick pressure as he received a (usually hurried, frenetic, clearing ball type) pass from our defense or defensive mids.
Jurgen's tactics at the WC weren't the greatest, and neither were his personnel decisions. The fact that Jurgen still thinks Mix can be a defensive midfielder and that Bradley should be a 10 shows that he's a bit deluded.
I'm not sure that I will ever get over Donovan being left off that roster. He could have helped us in a massive way, and I have to wonder if things might have been different if we had had those moments of LD magic that he's so known for.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:17 am to cwil177
lol, at this thread. The board was clamoring for Bradley to be used in a more advanced role prior to the World Cup.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 9:18 am
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