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re: Deer rut in Louisiana 2014
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:15 am to REB BEER
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:15 am to REB BEER
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I do know this, there are only 4 things that impact antler growth:
1. Age
2. Sex
3. Genetics
4. Nutrition
Of these 4, age is the most significant.
I am pretty sure the sex of a deer is the greatest factor on whether a deer even grows antlers.
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:17 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Maybe I should put it this way, age is the one you have the most control over. (Excluding deer pens)
I knew a man that had a Ph. D in white-tail reproductive physiology, and he taught me the simplest trophy buck strategy of them all...
"If you want to shoot trophy bucks, then ONLY shoot trophy bucks"
It sounds so elementary, but it's so true.
I knew a man that had a Ph. D in white-tail reproductive physiology, and he taught me the simplest trophy buck strategy of them all...
"If you want to shoot trophy bucks, then ONLY shoot trophy bucks"
It sounds so elementary, but it's so true.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:17 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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Ive always been told that any doe you see late season that still has last years yearling with her needs to be shot.
Why? What rational would there be to make this distinction?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:23 am to TigerDeacon
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Why? What rational would there be to make this distinction?
To get those late breeding bitches out the herd. I dont want bucks chasing does in Feb after hunting season. Assuming that the offspring will follow the same characteristic and come into heat late
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:24 am to TigerDeacon
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Ive always been told that any doe you see late season that still has last years yearling with her needs to be shot
Yeah, that's kind of silly. Deer are non-gregarious animals which means they do not herd, but they do travel in family groups. So I wouldn't go around shooting every doe I see late in the season with young uns in tow.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:28 am to REB BEER
Maybe I was told to shoot last years yearling spike if he is still hanging around.
Not sure. Ive heard ever possible theory thats ever been discussed at a hunting camp. They are all starting to run together
Not sure. Ive heard ever possible theory thats ever been discussed at a hunting camp. They are all starting to run together
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:29 am to REB BEER
I've been to a couple places (non high fence) where they see a bunch of deer and shoot nice trophies every year. Their management is simply kill off some does, and only shoot old deer. That with a lot of corn thrown in.
It doesn't take much. The more bucks you let walk, the more bigr racks you'll have around year in and year out.
It doesn't take much. The more bucks you let walk, the more bigr racks you'll have around year in and year out.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:31 am to Boats n Hose
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The more bucks you let walk, the more bigr racks you'll have around year in and year out
Problem is if your neighbors are "if it's brown it's down" type of people. It's hard for me to watch a young spike feed and walk into the woods knowing that within a few mins my neighbors are going to shoot it.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:33 am to GreenTrout
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It's hard for me to watch a young spike feed and walk into the woods knowing that within a few mins my neighbors are going to shoot it.
Thats what I told myself friday afternoon after I pulled the trigger
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:35 am to FelicianaTigerfan
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Not sure. Ive heard ever possible theory thats ever been discussed at a hunting camp. They are all starting to run together
No kidding the old timers have about a million different strategies and ideas. My great-uncle says deer like to walk in soft dirt, that's why you always see their tracks there.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:35 am to Boats n Hose
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I've been to a couple places (non high fence) where they see a bunch of deer and shoot nice trophies every year. Their management is simply kill off some does, and only shoot old deer. That with a lot of corn thrown in.
Corn is more of an attractant than protein supplement
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:41 am to REB BEER
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My great-uncle says deer like to walk in soft dirt, that's why you always see their tracks there.
Thats a good one
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:59 am to GreenTrout
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Problem is if your neighbors are "if it's brown it's down" type of people. It's hard for me to watch a young spike feed and walk into the woods knowing that within a few mins my neighbors are going to shoot it.
Even if you have only a few hundred acres, yea you'll lose some to the neighbors but as long as they aren't hunting your land eventually you'll be holding nicer deer, provided there's good cover and feed (acorns, food plots or otherwise corn/etc) there.
Regardless of what your neighbors do, if you shoot spikes, you will never hold decent racks on the property.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:03 pm to MillerMan
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Corn is more of an attractant than protein supplement
The corn is just to get the does out near feeders. Both of those properties had acorns galore. A lot of planted oak trees too.
I guess my point was, on a piece of property where you see/shoot small racks every year, but not much of size consistently comes out, and people wonder why their intricate strategies don't get bigger deer, it's really just as simple as don't shoot bucks. You'll get big deer. A lot of hunters have a hard time with that, and it really sucks on leases where not everyone is on the same page.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:06 pm to GreenTrout
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Problem is if your neighbors are "if it's brown it's down" type of people. It's hard for me to watch a young spike feed and walk into the woods knowing that within a few mins my neighbors are going to shoot it.
Generally speaking, deer tend to shy away from areas where they hear a 30-06 go off repeatedly every weekend. Neighbors don't put a huge dent in the desired gene pool.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:53 pm to Motorboat
Those of you that hunt southern Tangi/LP, do you agree with the general time frame on the LDWF map?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:59 pm to Motorboat
La sportsman had this map and a rut section every month
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:46 am to AlxTgr
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Does not bred during primary rut come back into heat a month or so later. This was made obvious to me this season when I shot a doe whose yurlins were almost as big as she was while Mung had spotted fawns under his tree.
This is not 100% correct, yes those does that do not get bred will keep coming in heat until bred. But the vast majority of the second rut are yearlings. Anyone who has ever hunted in west Texas has see
n this clearly.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:16 am to offshoretrash
How is that responsive, and what's not correct?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:22 am to AlxTgr
Because yearlings don't come in heat during the first rut.
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