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re: Trespassing or not trespassing

Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

"If you can launch at a public place, and get to a spot without ever leaving the boat, then you can hunt it."


uh yeah, that's not correct. But sounds like you know that already.

Bet i could find you a map from mid-1800s if you give me Township and range and section.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38723 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Ok Clyde why wouldn't I do that? It is illegal to trespass and this lets the trespasser know I am willing to enforce the law.


Because that doesn't actually enforce any law. I would generate evidence first before having my lawyer blindly fire off letters to people. Seems like he doesn't have any proof at this point in time.

quote:

They aren't MY ducks but if they are on my land they are for ME to hunt not you or anyone else. If someone trespasses and shoots them they are no longer there for ME to hunt on MY land. When that happens I get pissed and take them to court period. What is hard for you to understand about that?



These guys are hunting public water. They are not trespassing while hunting. Just while stashing the boat (Allegedly). If he confronts them, then they'll just build a boat pen on the back of the blind. Problem solved.

So far none of your suggestions would actually accomplish anything since they have every right to hunt public property that anyone else does.

You can't run them off because public property butts up to your privately managed duck hole and they are firing their guns too close to your spot. Perhaps, the private property guys need to re assess their blind locations and what areas they flood in regards to limiting the benefit to or distraction from the nearby public land hunters.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5754 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:05 pm to
Where have we established this is public land?? That seems to still be in question.

Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38723 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Where have we established this is public land?? That seems to still be in question.


Well, I would damn sure figure that out before I had my lawyer fire off letters as you suggested.
Posted by RockinRonnie100
Member since Dec 2014
5 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:17 pm to
That is the only question.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Clyde Tipton


Know how I know you're a public land hunter?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

These guys are hunting public water.
probably not
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:19 pm to
Alx, I appreciated your rustle attempt earlier in the thread. I just want to acknowledge.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Alx, I appreciated your rustle attempt earlier in the thread. I just want to acknowledge.



Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38723 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Know how I know you're a public land hunter?


I'm just making argument for debate's sake... I can envision exactly what's going on here. Basically, the rich guy is pissed people can hunt near his private hole. He has called the law and apparently they aren't going to do much. On the other side, these guys have found a public spot that is better than average as a result of rich guys efforts. They have good hunts and continue to return. I don't blame them one bit.

I hunt public and fight with the best of them, I've been on some of the best "tennis shoe" leases, and I personally own property I can't keep trespassers off of. I have experience with all sides of this issue.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Like cooking and drinking, we need a daily trespassing thread.


+1
Posted by RockinRonnie100
Member since Dec 2014
5 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:30 pm to
Wrong on so many levels.

All: If anyone has experience with a similar issue and can weigh in how to get mine resolved, your insight is appreciated.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:32 pm to
Game cams/sheriff/injunctive relief.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:33 pm to
Alx can give you the best legal advice.


I can give you the best sabotage advice.


Decide which you prefer.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:36 pm to



What about the feeding on the white piece of plywood trick?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38723 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Wrong on so many levels.


Please explain what's going on?

From your OP...

quote:

We've got some family land in N. LA that backs up to the Red River


Rich dude.

quote:

We have spent time and money to have the kind of duck habitat necessary to make our place great, but one huge problem: the public land hunters.


So you spent time and money to make the area better for ducks, and you are upset public land hunters have figured out hunting near your property increases their chance of a better hunt. Check

How is that wrong on so many levels when I said?

quote:

Basically, the rich guy is pissed people can hunt near his private hole. He has called the law and apparently they aren't going to do much. On the other side, these guys have found a public spot that is better than average as a result of rich guys efforts. They have good hunts and continue to return. I don't blame them one bit.


Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
Member since Nov 2007
38015 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:37 pm to
Didn't want to read whole thread but if they are walking across your property I believe the worthless pieces of dried up donkey frick are trespassing.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

So you spent time and money to make the area better for ducks, and you are upset public land hunters have figured out hunting near your property increases their chance of a better hunt. Check

There is at least a decent chance they are not hunting on public lands. Did the corp. expropriate the lands covered by the higher pool of the Red?
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:40 pm to
I would have already either

A: Untied/sank his boat when he walked across my place to get in aforementioned blind.

B: Baited the absolute piss out of the pond

C: Put a pile of snakes in the blind. Giant fricking pile of snakes.

D: Tied a live mink or a dead skunk under the seat of that blind.

or a combination of several of those. Probably A,B, and D concurrently.

Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

What about the feeding on the white piece of plywood trick?


Speaking of baiting I got reminded of a funny story about baiting and a fellow you may know this weekend.

****, how much corn did you put out?

Awe I put about 1500 pounds about 3 weeks before the season, then another thousand the week of, I mean it wasn't really all that much
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