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Regardless of their decision, the integrity of the committee will be questioned

Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:53 am
As it SHOULD be.

There is no way to leave prejudice out of this dumbass arrangement.

It's obvious that Ohio State should be the fourth team invited in. Did I say "obvious"? Of course it's not. There's nothing obvious about the Ohio Stte vs. TCU vs. Baylor decision. A solid argument can be made for each one. And that's the POINT... there should be ZERO argument.

The formula should have been agreed upon before the season. It should be empirical and unwavering. There should not be a committee of 20 people who have been elevated to their "most important fans" position over you and me.


Posted by oldcharlie8
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:55 am to
I've been waiting patiently for this day all year.

I love chaos
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:56 am to
Yes, it IS entertaining in a morbid sort of way.
Posted by dante
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:58 am to
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A solid argument can be made for each one. And that's the POINT... there should be ZERO argument.
There was always going to be an argument regardless of the results. Five power conferences......4 slots........someone is/was going to have the butthurt.
Posted by jlc05
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:59 am to
Good points. I would rather the computers be in place with the committee replacing the Harris Poll...but the BCS was under immense pressure from the BIG10 and their media cronies.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:00 am to
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I love chaos


We're used to a different kind of chaos (lots of upsets), but the meltdown today will be glorious.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:00 am to
I agree with Rex



6 team playoff is a simple solution IMO. If you're fighting for 6th then tough shite, you shouldn't have sucked. Fighting for 4th (possibly 3rd in this case?) sets you up for the possibility of this kind of thing.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 10:02 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:02 am to
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There was always going to be an argument regardless of the results.

Not about the teams, no.

Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:02 am to
Nah. Baylor and OSU only have themself to blame. You can't hide OSUs VT lose, and Hoover High School played a harder OOC schedule than Baylor.
Posted by dante
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:02 am to
quote:

There is no way to leave prejudice out of this dumbass arrangement.

That is why the format will be changed to 8 teams. The 5 conference winners and the 3 highest ranked non-conference winners.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:03 am to
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6 team playoff is a simple solution IMO.

That solves nothing. We'd then be arguing over who are the most deserving fifth and sixth place teams.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:03 am to
The only people that want OSU in are their fans and brainwashed ESPN followers.
Posted by BZ504
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:04 am to
I wish that Moo U would've beaten Ole Miss, even though they weren't a conference champ, they would be in the conversation. This year would've have more crazy.
Posted by dante
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:06 am to
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Not about the teams, no
I'm not sure what you mean. Regardless of who the committee picks this year or another year, when you only have 4 spots and 5 power conferences there is always going to be an argument about which teams belong.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:07 am to
Probability dictates that there are more likely to be 5-6 teams with a solid case for 4 spots than 7-8 teams with a solid case for 6 spots.

Even if it's close there wouldn't be near the uproar because the resumes wouldn't be close to that of the top 2-3. Look back at BCS rankings and find a team ranked 7th heading into the bowls that could be legitimately mad they aren't getting a shot to compete at a title. You can't do it, because those teams are significantly worse than the top 2-3

Basically, if you get left out of the 6th spot, people may say "yea you had a case to get in, but you lost two games and really weren't that great, you weren't beating Alabama or Oregon anyway"
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 10:09 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:09 am to
Im not sure what the hell people thought having a committee would solve. They have a committee for basketball and baseball and people get upset when average to good at large teams miss the cut. The BCS formula with a plus one game attached would have been perfect. They even had it set up as a basic plus one game when they moved the title game to a week after the others.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:09 am to
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I'm not sure what you mean. Regardless of who the committee picks this year or another year, when you only have 4 spots and 5 power conferences there is always going to be an argument about which teams belong.

If YOU the athletic director speaking for your own institution have already agreed by vote before the start of the season on the empirical formula to use for selecting the four teams then you can have no valid objection.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:10 am to
I think he was saying if a criteria had been put in place before the season then you wouldn't argue about the teams being in. You would be arguing that the wrong criteria to pick the teams were used. The committee has a floating criteria
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:12 am to
A floating and opaque criteria. That's been my issue from the beginning.
Posted by dante
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:12 am to
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If YOU the athletic director speaking for your own institution have already agreed by vote before the start of the season on the empirical formula to use for selecting the four teams then you can have no valid objection.
I agree with that, but the FAN bases never will accept it, when they are on the outside looking in.
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