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‘You will not be arrested for using drugs’ Amsterdam's Drug Policy

Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:40 pm
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Authorities in the Netherlands are warning Amsterdam tourists about heroin masquerading as cocaine, which has already killed several people and sent a number of others to the hospital. The campaign is striking because you'd never see one like it in the U.S.: "You will not be arrested for using drugs in Amsterdam," the fliers promise. Instead, they give information on how to receive medical assistance and how to keep potential overdose victims alert while waiting for help.


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Dutch law distinguishes between "soft drugs," like marijuana, and "hard" ones, like cocaine and heroin. Possession and use of up to 5 grams of marijuana, and 1 gram of cocaine or heroin, is not subject to penalty. In sharp contrast to the U.S., where drug use has primarily been dealt with as a criminal justice issue (although there's some evidence this is changing), the Dutch approach emphasizes harm reduction and public health.

One of the drawbacks of a criminal justice approach is that the threat of harsh sentencing keeps many drug users from seeking medical assistance in the event of an overdose. That's not a concern in the Netherlands. The Dutch approach allows authorities to have a frank dialogue with drug users when new dangers arise, like the fake cocaine.
How would the OT feel about the US following the Netherlands' model?
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:42 pm to
That's some serious income the govt would lose out on...
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:43 pm to
Why do you hate Jesus and America?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:43 pm to
I'm all for it. If you want to sit in your bedroom and shoot heroin all day you should have that right. Just don't do it in public.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:46 pm to
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. Just don't do it in public.
would you be ok with "heroin bars" opening?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:47 pm to
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Why do you hate Jesus and America?

Because my parents didn't beat me enough.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:51 pm to
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How would the OT feel about the US following the Netherlands' model?



The "War on Drugs" is one of the worst things in this country.
Posted by Reames239
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:53 pm to
Funny when people want a hands off drug policy even though we all know those lazy drug using pieces of shite will need free healthcare when they OD and welfare because they don't want a job.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Authorities in the Netherlands are warning Amsterdam tourists about heroin masquerading as cocaine


Darwinism in action for people that don't "gum check" that stuff first.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:55 pm to
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we all know those lazy drug using pieces of shite
bad vibes,, mon
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:56 pm to
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That's some serious income the govt would lose out on...




Yep. No more civil forfeiture.

According to D logic, that's a "cost" and proves libertarians are hypocrites about the deficit.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:56 pm to
well...They now have pocket Narcan in the US...

"For those times your friend overdoses"

Posted by raginjeauxcajun
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Funny when people want a hands off drug policy even though we all know those lazy drug using pieces of shite will need free healthcare when they OD and welfare because they don't want a job.



It's the same people who OD and use free healthcare in the Er's and don't have jobs now. So what would change other than not having to pay as much on the prison system.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Dutch law distinguishes between "soft drugs," like marijuana, and "hard" ones, like cocaine and heroin.


There should really be another distinction for "medium" drugs because cocain is nowhere near as hard as heroin.
Posted by LSUEnvy
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:00 pm to
That's been the Dutch policy for sometime. A lot of the bars have signs in the window that say No Hard Drugs. They don't want to deal with junkies.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:00 pm to
People cut their heroin with coke pretty often. Coke is cheaper. I failed a drug test for coke at my doctor once and I hadn't done coke in like a decade because of this. I was so pissed.
Posted by CaptainJ47
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:01 pm to
I love Amsterdam. The crime rate is low and everything is reasonably regulated. The problem is cops make too much money to eradicate fighting drug problems- think of the lost jobs.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:28 pm to
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How would the OT feel about the US following the Netherlands' model?


Pragmatism is a good thing. It's a shame we don't use it more often in this country.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:35 pm to
I don't have a problem with it. Not sure it would be a profitable business though.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:45 pm to
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People cut their heroin with coke pretty often


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I failed a drug test for coke at my doctor once and I hadn't done coke in like a decade


You were pissed you failed a drug test for coke but knew that you had just done heroin?
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