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New Orleans Airport--why Landrieu thinks his sister is great
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:37 am
I read somewhere yesterday Mitch said that we need Mary because when the city needs something--ie pork--like the new airport Mary comes through.
Does anyone really think we need a new airport terminal in New Orleans?? I love the New Orleans airport. I fly a couple of times a month and find it very easy to get in and out of. Short walks to everything. It's great. I don't want some monument to the Landrieu family that is hard to get in and out of.
I don't think there is any way in the world the people of New Orleans would vote a tax on themselves to fund a new airport terminal so Mitch needs federal money to build it.
Who cares?
This kind of "bring home the bacon to local politicians" is why the political elites say Mary has been great for Louisiana.
Does anyone really think we need a new airport terminal in New Orleans?? I love the New Orleans airport. I fly a couple of times a month and find it very easy to get in and out of. Short walks to everything. It's great. I don't want some monument to the Landrieu family that is hard to get in and out of.
I don't think there is any way in the world the people of New Orleans would vote a tax on themselves to fund a new airport terminal so Mitch needs federal money to build it.
Who cares?
This kind of "bring home the bacon to local politicians" is why the political elites say Mary has been great for Louisiana.
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:39 am to I B Freeman
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Does anyone really think we need a new airport terminal in New Orleans??
aren't they renovating one currently anyway?
KMSY is a pretty busy airport for its size no reason to upgrade it.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:42 am to catholictigerfan
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aren't they renovating one currently anyway?
They are constantly spending money out there so the well connected contractors get their pork.
But Mitch has announced a new half a billion dollar terminal. Who needs that? It's not like we need any more gates. They are not even using the A concourse.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:43 am to catholictigerfan
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aren't they renovating one currently anyway? KMSY is a pretty busy airport for its size no reason to upgrade it.
They re-did and expanded the D terminal and baggage claim for B/C.
It's an incredibly inefficient airport for its size and predicted growth. Don't necessarily think a new one is needed, though.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:43 am to I B Freeman
It's dated, but it works.
The biggest problem is that it is not well set up for a TSA screening area but that is because the TSA didn't exist when it was designed.
That's a fairly common issue. Love field and Hobby were renovated after 9/11 so they have much better area for screening.
The biggest problem is that it is not well set up for a TSA screening area but that is because the TSA didn't exist when it was designed.
That's a fairly common issue. Love field and Hobby were renovated after 9/11 so they have much better area for screening.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:46 am to Golfer
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t's an incredibly inefficient airport for its size
In what way?? It is very easy to get in and out of.
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predicted growth.
What predicted growth? They could double the flights in and out there now. The consolidation of the legacy airlines have left us with lots of under utilized gates. A is not even used. B has lots of gates at the end that are not used. Delta has gates that service a lot more flights.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:49 am to catholictigerfan
quote:When have they NOT been renovating MSY??? It's a perpetual construction zone.
aren't they renovating one currently anyway?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:51 am to TrueTiger
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The biggest problem is that it is not well set up for a TSA screening area but that is because the TSA didn't exist when it was designed.
And they could fix that without any new terminal.
B is the only real bottle neck for TSA and it is MUCH MUCH better than before. What they do at D is really about as efficient as it gets for TSA.
I can get in and out of the airport at MSY better than any airport I frequent. I love USA Park--those folks are very, very nice. They drop me off right in front of that first door when I fly SWA--which is just about every flight--I walk down to B and now that I am TSA Pre I move quickly through TSA and to then to the gate. SWA has it's act together at MSY.
No need to spend a half a billion dollars there.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:51 am to I B Freeman
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In what way?? It is very easy to get in and out of.
Gate ops, luggage screening, TSA ops, separate concourses so inability for the passenger to change terminals in a clean area, parking, even the new rental car facility is in a poor place but they didn't have another choice.
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The consolidation of the legacy airlines have left us with lots of under utilized gates. A is not even used. B has lots of gates at the end that are not used. Delta has gates that service a lot more flights.
Yes and no. Legacies are merging but not cutting pax loads. And I've flown out the day after a few major events. Every gate is used to the maximum.
Look, I'm not saying we need a new airport there. Just pointing out that there are valid reasons for one.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:52 am to LSURussian
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aren't they renovating one currently anyway?
When have they NOT been renovating MSY??? It's a perpetual construction zone.
That is true. It is a bottomless pit of pork and has some of the highest gate fees in the South. Now Mitch wants to build a new terminal.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:53 am to I B Freeman
I don't like the Landrieus and I don't want a monument, but if the Louisiana economy gets more successful, the airport would naturally need to expand, unless we want international travelers going to Memphis or Houston. But it should be done in a measured way, not just to have a pork project.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 9:57 am to Golfer
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Gate ops, luggage screening, TSA ops, separate concourses so inability for the passenger to change terminals in a clean area, parking, even the new rental car facility is in a poor place but they didn't have another choice.
I fly at least 50 flights a year and I will tell you that MSY operates very smoothly relatively speaking. I don't what you are talking about "changing terminals in a clean area".
The stupid rental car garage was not needed. They built them all over the country and that money came from homeland security. Some idiots used the idea of moving the rental car parking further from the terminal was good for security to justify some "infrastructure spending". They did the same stupid thing in Nashville.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:01 am to I B Freeman
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I fly at least 50 flights a year and I will tell you that MSY operates very smoothly relatively speaking. I don't what you are talking about "changing terminals in a clean area".
And I fly more than twice as much as you and I'm telling you it's not an efficient airport. There's a lot of redundancies because of its layout.
Once you're thorough TSA, you're in a clean area. Right now you can't switch concourses if needed. This is an issue, especially during major events when the legacies use overflow gates.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:01 am to Golfer
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separate concourses so inability for the passenger to change terminals in a clean area
Nola doesn't have many connecting flights. It is usually a departure or arrival airport for most travelers. There is no reason for people to change terminals.
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Look, I'm not saying we need a new airport there. Just pointing out that there are valid reasons for one.
Maybe, but there are many other things money can go to.
I do love diving by the airport, fun to watch planes take off and land. But I'm a plane nerd so.............
Actually where I'm living right now, the approach pattern for 28 is right over me. Heard to planes fly over me in the last 10 minuets.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:01 am to maine82
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international travelers going to Memphis or Houston.
In the eighties there were a lot more airlines operating out of MSY and a lot more international flights. I suspect a lot more domestic flights then too but I am not sure of that. It was a small hub for Delta and there were connecting flights from MSY. MSY is now for the most part a destination airport and is nobody's hub.
I am not sure there are any international flights there now. Are they?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:02 am to I B Freeman
I thing he means if you land in B and need to catch another flight in C, to have to go out and get re-screened.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:03 am to catholictigerfan
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Nola doesn't have many connecting flights. It is usually a departure or arrival airport for most travelers. There is no reason for people to change terminals.
There are a number of reasons why passengers would need to change concourses. And as I said above, it becomes and issue when airlines are using the overflow gates in other concourses.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:04 am to TrueTiger
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I thing he means if you land in B and need to catch another flight in C, to have to go out and get re-screened.
How many people coming into KMSY are connecting to another city? I would say probably less than 10% if not less than 5%. As I said KMSY is a departure and arrival airport for most people not a connecting airport.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:04 am to TrueTiger
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I thing he means if you land in B and need to catch another flight in C, to have to go out and get re-screened.
Or if you're in D and that flight gets delayed and need to go out of C, you have to exit and get re screened. Which means 30+ minutes during events.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:05 am to Golfer
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There are a number of reasons why passengers would need to change concourses. And as I said above, it becomes and issue when airlines are using the overflow gates in other concourses.
ok maybe so.
Issues with the airport or not, we don't need to sink a lot of money into this airport. Even if it is Federal.
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