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Charles Schwab, are they good for setting up a retirement account (sep-Ira)?

Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:03 pm
I have a schwab account. I also have an Ameriprise financial adviser I've set up an sep-Ira through. I think I can do better without him. I know most of yall like vanguard and fidelity, but is schwab good for sep-ira/529/Roth type stuff? Has anybody had any dealings with them or their funds/ETFs?

TIA
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:08 pm to
Why do you think you can do better without him?
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:16 pm to
I offer no comment on your FA. However, I have a SEP-IRA with Schwab and I am happy. They have a selection of ETFs that have no trading costs, including, but not limited to Schwab's own ETFs. Customer service is great. Very easy to get someone on the phone and get their help.
Posted by white perch
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Why do you think you can do better without him?


I can set these up myself. I already have a tax guy. He is selling me C class shares with 1% back loads.

I can pick some decent index funds (SWSMX I think is the schwab version of vtsmx) and also some low fee no commision growth and dividend funds as well as some blue chip stocks (XOM, aapl, KO, etc). I've got 30 years till retirement
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
I don't get the love for vtsmx. There are higher fee, commissioned, lower risk, higher return options.
Posted by white perch
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:31 pm to
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vtsmx


This is the darling of the money talk board. If you know of any good funds please feel free to share.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
That costs padnuh. I'm just saying do your research. VTSMX is a good fund, but there are several a share commissioned funds with higher expense ratios and less risk that have a better than 9.5% average return after fees



I do realize the no-loads give you more freedom to move your money though
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:34 pm to
between my wife and I we have four IRAs with Schwab. None are a SEP though.

We have been very happy with their service, fees, and pretty much everything else. No problems.

I also have an account at fidelity, where I am not near as happy.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:56 pm to
I have a SEP, an IRA and an IRA rollover with Schwab.
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:09 pm to
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less risk that have a better than 9.5% average return after fees


over what term?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:55 pm to
30-80 years



Wife has had one since she was a kid that is distributing 10-12% capital gains this year on top of growth



I'm not trying to hate on Vtsmx, I'm just saying fees aren't always bad
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:40 pm to
I've been a very satisfied Schwab customer for probably 15 years or more. My Roth and checking account are setup with them.

You can still get Vanguard funds, plus just about anything else. They will cost very slightly more if you buy them through a non-Vanguard account but nowhere near the 1% load your Ameriprise guy is charging.

The main thing is that if you want advice you probably still have to pay for it. I have no idea how much that runs, I roll my own.
Posted by white perch
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:48 pm to
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Wife has had one since she was a kid that is distributing 10-12% capital gains this year on top of growth


Damn, which one is that?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:59 pm to
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Wife has had one since she was a kid that is distributing 10-12% capital gains this year on top of growth


Any fund can get lucky. There's almost certainly a fund out there that made similar investment choices but didn't have a sales load.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:44 pm to
Average 13% return over 40 years. If you look, they are out there.


ETA: 13.6 to be exact
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Ole War Skule
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Wife has had one since she was a kid that is distributing 10-12% capital gains this year on top of growth



what are some of the fund's names?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:20 am to
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This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 11:16 am
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