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Are black people going to protest the NY cigarette law?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:24 am
Got a black man killed for bullshite
seems a legit beef
seems a legit beef
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:26 am
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:25 am to Roaad
no, they are going to ask that it be raised so the state can afford more police training.
It's gonna be awesome.
It's gonna be awesome.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:25 am to Roaad
You're trying too hard, dude.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:27 am to upgrayedd
Man i am serious
the stupid law killed a guy
the stupid law killed a guy
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:28 am to Roaad
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the stupid law killed a guy
Not really
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:31 am to Roaad
Everyone should protest that law.
And, Garner was killed by an overzealous cop who put him in a chokehold and ran him into the ground because he was allegedly selling looseys.
From what I understand, Garner broke up a a fight and the police came. Then, the police turned on him and started questioning him. Part of his frustration was likely that he did a good thing and now the police were going after him. The guy who videotaped the incident was visited by the police and indicted on gun charges. Maybe there is more going on here than meets the eye with the police?
It looks like Garner was selling loose cigarettes and the government wanted to "wet their beak" so they were eliminating competition with law enforcement. It is the Don Fanucci form of government.
And, Garner was killed by an overzealous cop who put him in a chokehold and ran him into the ground because he was allegedly selling looseys.
From what I understand, Garner broke up a a fight and the police came. Then, the police turned on him and started questioning him. Part of his frustration was likely that he did a good thing and now the police were going after him. The guy who videotaped the incident was visited by the police and indicted on gun charges. Maybe there is more going on here than meets the eye with the police?
It looks like Garner was selling loose cigarettes and the government wanted to "wet their beak" so they were eliminating competition with law enforcement. It is the Don Fanucci form of government.
quote:
"Young man, I hear you and your friends are stealing goods. But you don't even send a dress to my house. No respect! You know I've got three daughters. This is my neighborhood. You and your friends should show me some respect. You should let me wet my beak a little... Tell your friends I don't want a lot. Just enough to wet my beak."
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:31 am to Lakeboy7
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NY cigarette law
Applied a bitchin' CHOKE HOLD!
More effective than Ric Flair's sleeper! WOOOO!
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:43 am to AlaTiger
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Everyone should protest that law.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:45 am to Roaad
Proof that big government regulation kills. 
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:51 am to AlaTiger
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It looks like Garner was selling loose cigarettes
Cigarette cost by state
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1. New York $14.50
46. West Virginia $5.07
If you could carry roughly 1k packs of smokes in a F-150 with a camper shell, that's $10k - minor operating expenses in profit. Maybe an enterprising young Kennedy wil build a fortune bootlegging cigaretts.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:53 am to son of arlo
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Maybe an enterprising young Kennedy wil build a fortune bootlegging cigaretts.
This is actually a large revenue stream for many terrorist groups here in the US.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:56 am to son of arlo
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If you could carry roughly 1k packs of smokes in a F-150 with a camper shell, that's $10k - minor operating expenses in profit. Maybe an enterprising young Kennedy wil build a fortune bootlegging cigaretts.
Taxation and laws like what New York has on cigaretts actually creates crime and helps crime organize, which leads to more nefarious behavior and more violence.
They talk about the "Broken Windows" theory, which I agree with. But, extreme taxation on a legal substance like this and this kind of policing to enforce it counteracts the benefit from Broken Windows and creates more crime and organized crime. Look at what Prohibition did. Then, you have violence as the underworld works out turf issues and you have corruption with the police as kickbacks are instituted.
Taxing cigarettes at 1000% creates MORE crime than it solves, costing taxpayers MORE money to go after the crime that it created. It is not good governance.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:01 pm to AlaTiger
Does anybody know if a loose marlboro costs more than a doobie in NYC?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:08 pm to Roaad
I would. That was extremely hard to watch. It is disgusting how little people are in proportion to the law in situations like that.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:13 pm to son of arlo
Damn I didn't know the cost of cigs was that much of a difference up there. You could make a killing selling them at 10 bucks a pack on the street after buying them for 5
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:16 pm to Roaad
Dude was being a good capitalist.
He was supplying a market demand.
Further proof on the war on capitalism.
He was supplying a market demand.
Further proof on the war on capitalism.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:40 pm to AlaTiger
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From what I understand, Garner broke up a a fight and the police came. Then, the police turned on him and started questioning him. Part of his frustration was likely that he did a good thing and now the police were going after him. The guy who videotaped the incident was visited by the police and indicted on gun charges. Maybe there is more going on here than meets the eye with the police?
This . Everyone believes whatever the Cops report. If the Cops report it is then gospel to many.
According to the cameraman the police were called because a fight/argument had occured & Garner broke it up.
Pollce get there & accuse the incredulous Garner of selling cigarettes ?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:51 pm to deltaland
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You could make a killing selling them at 10 bucks a pack
Cash. No taxes, or employee mandate. Sign up for welfate and obamacare subsidies. Retire after two years. The state of NY has given you a 200% margin. Pay off the right people. We give so many perverse incentives by the law of unintended consequences.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:52 pm to sugar71
I heard some idiot said he was killed because NY taxes cigarettes a lot. Idiotic. Proof cigarettes kill.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:03 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Wait a minute.
It is argued that current immigration policy causes illegals to die because they make dangerous journeys.
Why can't we apply that logic to cigarette policy?
It is argued that current immigration policy causes illegals to die because they make dangerous journeys.
Why can't we apply that logic to cigarette policy?
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