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Training a large dog (NSFW)
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:03 pm
I've always owned smaller dogs, i.e. Min Pins - great companions, yappy and uncontrollable barking at times. The one that I have left is my shadow, however when someone rings the doorbell or knocks on the door, she goes ballistic. Calms down just as quickly as they come through the door, but nonetheless aggravating and to date, not controllable by me, even through training and correction.
Looking to purchase a large dog, preferably one like this:
Want this big guy to be loyal to me and my family, but on guard while being submissive and in control for when strangers knock on our door or enter our home.
How hard is it to train this type of dog to not bark uncontrollably when not necessary? And vice versa?
Looking to purchase a large dog, preferably one like this:
Want this big guy to be loyal to me and my family, but on guard while being submissive and in control for when strangers knock on our door or enter our home.
How hard is it to train this type of dog to not bark uncontrollably when not necessary? And vice versa?
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 2:05 pm
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:04 pm to Will Cover
THAT is a set
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:06 pm to Will Cover
Dobermans are very head strong and require a lot of attention to become trained. My mother has had two of them and both went nuts at the doorbell ringing, but she isn't the best dog trainer around. The good thing is if you raise them in a loving home they are almost always very nice, if a little excitable. Both of her dogs absolutely loved soft surfaces, so if you don't want them in your bed or on your couch there is a long few years of training.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:07 pm to Colonel Angus
that dog is ready to shoot ropes like Peter North
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:07 pm to Doosh606
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Dobermans are very head strong and require a lot of attention to become trained. My mother has had two of them and both went nuts at the doorbell ringing, but she isn't the best dog trainer around. The good thing is if you raise them in a loving home they are almost always very nice, if a little excitable. Both of her dogs absolutely loved soft surfaces, so if you don't want them in your bed or on your couch there is a long few years of training.
I've read that Dobermans are very loyal to their owners. We would integrate them with others as much as we could early on, but I failed as an owner to get my three min-pins (now only 1 left) to stop the unnecessary barking.
One would feed off the other and sounded like loud yapping fireworks in my house.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:10 pm to Will Cover
Min Pins are just like that. The one we had was crazy with the barking when someone was outside, but extremely nice once that person actually came in the house.
A miniature pincher and Doberman are two entirely different breeds with different temperaments. It's not literally a smaller version of a Doberman, the name is a bit of a misnomer.
A miniature pincher and Doberman are two entirely different breeds with different temperaments. It's not literally a smaller version of a Doberman, the name is a bit of a misnomer.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:11 pm to Will Cover
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but on guard while being submissive and in control for when strangers knock on our door or enter our home.
Let me know how you did this when you get one. I have grab my dane's collar with both hands when someone is at the door
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:11 pm to Will Cover
Dolls out
Balls out
Balls out
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:11 pm to Will Cover
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but I failed as an owner to get my three min-pins (now only 1 left) to stop the unnecessary barking.
Pretty much impossible with small dogs
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:13 pm to Adam4LSU
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Let me know how you did this when you get one. I have grab my dane's collar with both hands when someone is at the door
I believe it may be in our best interest that when we purchase our Doberman, we have him | her professionally trained.
Then it will be up to us to be seen as the pack leader. If we fail, it will be money down the drain.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:13 pm to SG_Geaux
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Pretty much impossible with small dogs
Maybe so, but I've seen Caesar Milan shows enough to know that it can be done, maybe not be me.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:15 pm to Doosh606
My family grew up with dobies. If you buy one as a pup training starts as soon as they walk thru the door. Never allow them to jump on or nibble people when they're small because one day that cute puppy will be an 80 lb force. Pull on they're tails and ears when you play with them, especially if they're going to be around kids. Take them to run errands so they get accustomed to all people. As they get older I'm a huge proponent of a shock collar. Get one with a vibrate or beep function so you can give them a warning when they step out of line. Save the shock for extreme circumstances such as unwanted growling. Mine got to a point where if he was being bad all I had to do was show the collar to him and he would immediately lay at my feet and "show me his belly" which is a sign of submission. 14 years and I never had a problem.
The only time he bit someone was when I had a home invasion. Perfect house dog
The only time he bit someone was when I had a home invasion. Perfect house dog
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:17 pm to Will Cover
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How hard is it to train this type of dog to not bark uncontrollably when not necessary? And vice versa?
Dobies are going to do a lot of what you want without a whole lot of training. Small dogs bark because that's their one trick - they have to make noise to show they're there. I've mainly had experience with German Shepards on the large dog side, but (and I'm considered a Doberman next time) - these dogs are going to bark at strangers - that's their schtick - it is hardcoded in their DNA. It will require work to create a disincentive for them to do so. They are much less likely to go ballistic when someone new shows up (once past puppy/teenager stage at 1 1/2 to 3) because they're more confident animals, generally. They know they are a big, scary dog and they don't feel the need to prove it as much.
However, this varies from individual to individual. I would develop a ritual with new people and introducing the dog. When you don't do that or are fearful, they pick up on that an act the way they think is appropriate (bad stranger, WOOF, WOOF).
But, let's face it - dogs have 3 vocalizations - whine, bark and growl. They bark to show joy, apprehension, anger, love, attention seeking - barking, drooling, and to a certain degree shedding (although Dobies have fine hair, they do shed, although not nearly as much or as often as a long-haired dog, such as a GSD, who blow out their coats a couple times a year, quite impressively) is just the price of admission in owning a large, protective dog.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:19 pm to baseballmind1212
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Mine got to a point where if he was being bad all I had to do was show the collar to him and he would immediately lay at my feet and "show me his belly" which is a sign of submission. 14 years and I never had a problem.
The only time he bit someone was when I had a home invasion. Perfect house dog
This is what I want. Be aggressive only when the time calls for it.
I have a spray collar for my min pin. I believe she now likes the smell of citronella.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:20 pm to Will Cover
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Maybe so, but I've seen Caesar Milan shows enough to know that it can be done, maybe not be me.
I have met Caesar Milan and YOU ARE NO CAESAR MILAN !!!
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:29 pm to Will Cover
One of my family has two min pins. Those dogs are crazy young. Happy and hyper. But once they each hit three it was like they had two completely different dogs. They were trained to sit on a rug in the foyer. When a guest walked in the humans would exchange greetings, the dogs would get a scratch behind the ears then could leave the rug. If the guests tried to leave the foyer without acknowledging the dogs they position themselves in the doorway that led to the rest of the house.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:29 pm to Adam4LSU
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Let me know how you did this when you get one. I have grab my mastiff's collar with both hands when someone is at the door
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:30 pm to Will Cover
small dogs bark constantly, they have not much else to offer. Big dogs bark when shite is about to hit the fan. My American Bulldog never barked unless it was go time, mostly when someone knocked on the door. Other than that, he was pretty quiet. Just excercise it enough and you should be fine.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:30 pm to Will Cover
My brother has a very large blue doberman. Dog is sweet with every family member. He'll attack strangers, though. I haven't seen him in years, but he is still sweet to me, which I find impressive.
Excellent dogs. Just find a reputable breeder. I suggest using puppyfind.com.
Excellent dogs. Just find a reputable breeder. I suggest using puppyfind.com.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:34 pm to jojothetireguy
When I have a house I want a mastiff. Those dogs are beasts!
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