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re: Key Personnel Losses for 2015?

Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:20 am to
They're *
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:28 am to
All those plus Harris transferring.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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89453 posts
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Wilson to Troy


I'm worried about that, and that will be the biggest loss of all.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:30 am to
As long as Kwon doesn't leave, I'm content.

Hawkins isn't so good that I care if he leaves.

There's really no one else on that roster that would be such a significant loss.

Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:34 am to
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There's really no one else on that roster that would be such a significant loss.


Hunter and Alexander would be huge if they stay. Hunter solidifies the line for next year with our two young DT's playing so well. Vadal gives some great leadership up front and some continuity up front. I really don't want Pocic at center and if we are breaking in a new center it would be nice to have as many returning linemen as possible.
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:35 am to
It would be nice to bring Hawkins and VAlexander back to prevent a brand new line.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26593 posts
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:47 am to
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And how is hunter a big loss? He knocks down passes, that's about all he does. I agree with Kwon , he would be a big loss. Hunter has 1.5 sacks on 12 games .


Hunter is one of the best run stopping DEs in the country. The sack count will go up immensely if he stays a year.
Posted by PG
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:02 am to
Sitting behind AJ is bad enough. Add Miles trolling and teasing him about playing time in public is beyond over the top.
Imagine AJ as the starter with the mid-level college freshman as your QB depth.
As usual, we should anticipate all the Juniors that can to probably bolt.

This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 9:08 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26593 posts
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:03 am to
IMO, we could lose all draft eligible players + seniors. I see It going differently though.

Vadal (wow did he make a difference)
Mills
J. Collins
Kwon

i believe we keep Dural, Hawkins and Hunter. Hawkins slide to LT, Pocic plays RT/C/G, Dodd plays C, Teuhema plays G/RT, Brumfield plays G.

We aren't the only ones losing OL though. Just going on our schedule alone, Bama, TAMU, South Carolina, UF, and MSU are all losing 3 OL.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:01 am to
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We aren't the only ones losing OL though. Just going on our schedule alone, Bama, TAMU, South Carolina, UF, and MSU are all losing 3 OL.


Just because of physical maturity issues, it used to be common to lose 3 or 4 seniors every few years. Now, with players coming in pegged as starting/playing early on the OL and kids leaving early, the redshirt (while still common) is becoming less automatic for OL (particularly the top tier) and going early is a little more common than it used to be - it is having a cumulative effect - just as the revolving door of junior RBs and WRs have made 1st year guys at those positions far more common to start and play heavily, earlier, than just 10 or 12 years ago.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:10 am to
Hunter may not be an all american, but he is a solid SEC player. Sorry he is a big loss if he leaves.
Posted by Diggerest
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 6:26 pm to
I've heard Hawkins goes, as he desperately needs the money. Keeping him (@ LT) & Vadal up front would be huge.
As would be Kwon & Hunter.
It'll be interesting to see if the new regs on evaluations from the NFL deter some who shouldn't, from leaving. But we always need to clear spots so we can sign the max to the next class.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 6:28 pm to
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I think Kwon and hunter stay

I would ceaselessly fap.
Posted by KROBtGOAT
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 6:56 pm to
I see Mills leaving, seems like staying another year isn't going to raise his stock unless he has something ridiculous like 15 INT's. He had a lot of promise starting at DBU as a freshman, but he's been an average to slightly above average SEC player the last two years. Who knows, maybe another year at S and he will get better.

Jalen Collins surprised most, if not all, of us this year with his improved play. Kid worked his arse off in the offseason to get better and it paid off. He may see more room for improvement and stick around for another year. He also seems to love college life, and that helps.

Vadal will see that Trai Turner got drafted and is starting, and he will leave, unless the coaches have said they want to move him to LT and he's interested in that, but I don't see that happening. Keep in mind he can also lower his stock significantly by moving to LT and crapping the bed.

Hawkins, if it's true he needs the money then he's gone. He could raise his stock by moving to LT, but he could also lower it too by crapping the bed. He may be content playing RT and making plenty of money to support his family, and you can't fault him for that.

Kwon... This is a tricky one. He's been great for us in his 3 years, but a lot of people feel he's an undersized LB. Another year of muscle and experience could benefit him greatly.

Now, Hunter.... Everyone has seen pictures of him with his shirt off, and everyone has thought that he would have a monster season with a bunch of sacks. Well, he didn't have a bunch of sacks, but he did perform fairly well. Combine his play with what his numbers will be at the combine, and NFL DC's will all be saying they're the one that will make him a hall of famer. He could possibly raise his stock by coming back and having a monster year, but I think NFL execs will see his measurables and that he came from LSU, and he'll be a 1st or 2nd rounder.

Forgot about Dural. IMO he needs to show he can run more than 2-3 routes. If the coaches allow him to receive a draft grade, he should be back, but we've all been stunned by certain guys declaring early before.

IMO, I think we should just expect them all to leave until they stay. It's not just the elite guys leaving early nowadays, it's all who feel they're ready for the NFL. Something we as LSU fans have gotten used to quickly.
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 6:58 pm to
Ewwwwww
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/28/14 at 7:05 pm to
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And how is hunter a big loss?
He's 4th on the team and top 20 in the conference in total tackles, so there's that.

Hunter may not be as dominant as some of us had hoped, but to say that he would not be a big loss is nonsense.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45099 posts
Posted on 11/28/14 at 7:07 pm to
Wilson will remain at LSU. See my post on the RB.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 2:19 am to
27 solo tackles in 12 games, yeah that's a ton. You showed me. 3 solo tackles in November. You are dumb
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 2:22 am to
Good one.
Posted by BigTiger80
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
1177 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 2:45 am to
Here's what I believe:

Offense
Alexander-gone
Hawkins-gone
Dural-stays

Defense:
Hunter-gone
Kwon-stays
Collins-stays
Mills-gone

I think the worse case scenario is that 6 of the 7 leave (Dural stays).

I just don't see any chance of Alexander, Hunter or Mills staying.

Hawkins is a key for us as if he stays at least we would have 2 returning starters on the line. I would love for Vadal to return but I don't think he will. The key on defense in my opinion, other than Hunter, who will leave, is Kwon. He's turned out to be a solid player and seems to always be around the ball.
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