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The best Op-Ed I've seen on Ferguson

Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:19 am
Posted by a want
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:19 am
Politico: Rich Lowry

He sums it up nicely. I recommend you just read the whole thing, but here are excerpts:

quote:

The bitter irony of the Michael Brown case is that if he had actually put his hands up and said don't shoot, he would almost certainly be alive today. His family would have been spared an unspeakable loss, and Ferguson, Missouri wouldn't have experienced multiple bouts of rioting, including the torching of at least a dozen businesses the night it was announced that Officer Darren Wilson wouldn't be charged with a crime.

Instead, the credible evidence (i.e., the testimony that doesn't contradict itself or the physical evidence) suggests that Michael Brown had no interest in surrendering. After committing an act of petty robbery at a local business, he attacked Officer Wilson when he stopped him on the street. Brown punched Wilson when the officer was still in his patrol car and attempted to take his gun from him.

The first shots were fired within the car in the struggle over the gun. Then, Michael Brown ran. Even if he hadn't put his hands up, but merely kept running away, he would also almost certainly be alive today. Again, according to the credible evidence, he turned back and rushed Wilson. The officer shot several times, but Brown kept on coming until Wilson killed him.

This is a terrible tragedy. It isn't a metaphor for police brutality or race repression or anything else, and never was. Aided and abetted by a compliant national media, the Ferguson protestors spun a dishonest or misinformed version of what happened—Michael Brown murdered in cold blood while trying to give up—into a chant ("hands up, don't shoot") and then a mini-movement.

When the facts didn't back their narrative, they dismissed the facts and retreated into paranoid suspicion of the legal system. It apparently required more intellectual effort than almost any liberal could muster even to say, "You know, I believe policing in America is deeply unjust, but in this case the evidence is murky and not enough to indict, let alone convict anyone of a crime."

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Liberal commentators come back again and again to the fact that Michael Brown was unarmed and that, in the struggle between the two, Officer Wilson only sustained bruises to his face, or what Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo calls an "irritated cheek." The subtext is that if only Wilson had allowed Brown to beat him up and perhaps take his gun, things wouldn't have had to escalate.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:34 am to
Very well stated. But a faction of this country is out for blood, regardless of the facts.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:36 am to
Things will probably calm down in Ferguson when the rioters read their copy of politico today.

Seriously, it was a well reasoned article
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:42 am to
Really well done. Enjoyed reading that. Agree with everything.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18300 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:51 am to
Sad....but true. No matter the evidence, the short term holds nothing but hatred and contempt for the "system".
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3505 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:52 am to
quote:

put his hands up and said don't shoot


Pants up, don't loot!
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:53 am to
quote:


When the facts didn't back their narrative, they dismissed the facts and retreated into paranoid suspicion of the legal system. It apparently required more intellectual effort than almost any liberal could muster even to say, "You know, I believe policing in America is deeply unjust, but in this case the evidence is murky and not enough to indict, let alone convict anyone of a crime."
Damn, did he actually say that?!?

Bravo!
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:56 am to
This whole sh!t show is about the Rev-uh-runds Al and Jesse. Jesse needs a new summer home on Martha's Vinyard so he can hang out with Billy Jeff and Billary. Al needs a couple million to get the IRS off his a$$.

That is ALL this is about.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:56 am to
Really a shame it's come down to white/black...liberal/conservative. It seems a very large percentage of people have empathy for only those who tend to align themselves politically. I'm really getting burned out on politics for this very reason.

I know it's not just me, but politics has become such a caricature, so dumbed-down and people hate the other guy more than they actually believe in their own "side."
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:00 am to
Obama and Holder disagree with this.

The rest of us who have half a brain would most certainly agree with this.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Things will probably calm down in Ferguson when the rioters read their copy of politico today.








but IRL this ain't happening
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:02 am to
The fact of the matter is Michael Brown's conduct tipped the dominoes into action when he chose to commit robbery...without that choice we would have nothing to consider. This matter is about race only for those who choose to make it about race as they refuse to call lawlessness - lawlessness and this lack of courage to do so lies at the core of the matter before us. Poverty, race and the likes are simply excuses for the intellectually dishonest as there are countless examples of others who have overcome far worse and they lead honorable and noble lives. Further, precious few of us have never encountered some degree of bigotry, whether it be race, ethnicity, gender, religious, etc., and to allow others to define one's own sense of self is a sure fire way to never realize a reasonable life in America.
Posted by slaphappy
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2005
2340 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:10 am to
This Ferguson crap will be over when the next faux outrage occurs. I cannot believe how many educated people of color are jumping all over this race baiting.
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:13 am to
quote:

You know, I believe policing in America is deeply unjust, but in this case the evidence is murky and not enough to indict, let alone convict anyone of a crime."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:


This Ferguson crap will be over when the next faux outrage occurs. I cannot believe how many educated people of color are jumping all over this race baiting.


I have a very liberal friend in Seattle and she's all over this. Very intelligent lady but surrounds herself with people who think exactly the way she thinks and her view of the world is skewed. She's convinced that if you don't vote for Obama, you're racist and that Michael Brown was surrendering when killed.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19871 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo calls an "irritated cheek."


i wonder what would happen if that phrase was used in a domestic violence case
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:31 am to
They should just shut up and accept the findings of the investigation.

Now who's up for another Benghazi investigation?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:44 am to

quote:

This is a terrible tragedy. It isn't a metaphor for police brutality or race repression or anything else, and never was
This.

Nice find A-dub. Thanks for posting it.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4583 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:16 pm to
Yep, where is the outrage when the following occurs as outlined in Lowery's Op-Ed?

quote:

There is good reason for a police officer to be in mortal fear in the situation Officer Wilson faced, though. In upstate New York last March, a police officer responded to a disturbance call at an office, when suddenly a disturbed man pummeled the officer as he was attempting to exit his vehicle and then grabbed his gun and shot him dead. The case didn't become a national metaphor for anything.


I presume the offender was caught and dealt with, but don't know the outcome of this because why? Law enforcement needs our support, not unwavering idolatry, but benefit of the doubt. Hell, there isn't even doubt in the Michael Brown findings yet the overzealous race baiters and black apologists fall all over themselves to indict the system that protects them.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:35 pm to
This entire protest is based on lies.

At least Travon Martin had a real case and point. This guy attacked a cop and tried to steal his gun then ran away only to begin charging him?

Damn right you shoot to kill.
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