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Interesting Article on the Finances of a Touring Indie Band

Posted on 11/25/14 at 7:23 pm
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 7:23 pm
Pomplamoose Tour

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Pomplamoose just finished a 28-day tour. We played 24 shows in 23 cities around the United States. It was awesome: Nataly crowd surfed for the first time ever, we sold just under $100,000 in tickets, and we got to rock out with people we love for a full month. We sold 1129 tickets in San Francisco at the Fillmore. I’ll remember that night for the rest of my life.


Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 7:30 pm to
I have a family member in a band that isn't famous, but plays at major festies, tours on multiple continents, and opens for huge indie acts. Multiple people on here would recognize the band's name. He's a bartender on the side in San Fran .

Touring is taxing as frick on the body, mind, and often the wallet.
Posted by PaBon
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 7:50 pm to
Interesting article. This band appears to have it's shite together, regardless of being able to profit from a tour. How many musicians do you guys know that don't have another job? I think good music is made in those perilous environments.

Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 7:52 am to
they could have saved some money by not springing for the MB sprinter
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 7:54 am to
I met a guy that was the drummer in "Framing the Red". They toured all over the country and even opened up for Hinder and Def Leppard. He makes more money selling Toyotas.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:34 am to
after listening to this band's songs for a bit... they are actually very talented

check this song out:

LINK
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:00 am to
Did tRigz ever tour?
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:11 am to
just down the road to nola twice
Posted by Dave England
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:13 am to
I heard the Rogz banked so much from the 2010 fall tour they will never have to work another day in their lives
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:27 am to
considering the band didn't exist until 2012 i'd say that is pretty much impossible
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:02 am to
2 crew members is excessive. 1 is plenty. Many bands don't have any with them.

Staying in hotels every night is excessive. Most small bands stay with friends/fans in various cities at least 20% of the time.

Those 2 items would allow this band to make money.

Then, paying band members a salary and per diem? Naw, you get a percentage of each nights take.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:06 am to
tRogz are strictly a studio band.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:44 am to
quote:

tRogz are strictly a studio band.
you know how I know you've never been to a RhogZ show?

lol n00b
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:59 am to
quote:

2 crew members is excessive. 1 is plenty. Many bands don't have any with them. Staying in hotels every night is excessive. Most small bands stay with friends/fans in various cities at least 20% of the time. Those 2 items would allow this band to make money. Then, paying band members a salary and per diem? Naw, you get a percentage of each nights take.


Yep. It sounds like their problem is knowing how to budget and not splurge on everything. I mean, I get that they want to pay per diem to the band members and a salary, but at the same time, they aren't some big corporation that should do this. It seems laughable that musicians would expect a per diem and salary when touring.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:09 pm to
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It seems laughable that musicians would expect a per diem and salary when touring.



the musicians they had were hired guns.
Posted by Dave England
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:30 pm to
Whenever I pick up a bass gig around town I usually charge $500 an hour
Posted by TFTC
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

2 crew members is excessive. 1 is plenty. Many bands don't have any with them.

Staying in hotels every night is excessive. Most small bands stay with friends/fans in various cities at least 20% of the time.

Those 2 items would allow this band to make money.

Then, paying band members a salary and per diem? Naw, you get a percentage of each nights take.


I was thinking the same thing... they definitely don't jam econo!
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:37 pm to
they blame the stage production and wanting to put on a great show as an investment causing them to lose out, but behind the scenes seemed to spend excessively too. stuff like hotels the whole way, the extra crew member.... this was to a degree them wanting to do it up while on tour, not just have a noteworthy stage presence. they treated it as an experience and not a small business.

interesting read though.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by TFTC
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:50 pm to
yeah, I know so many people in bands over the years... if they made $136,000 on a 28 day tour. they would have been so stoked and all would have walked with $$$...

this band definitely were excessive in their spending, with no intention of roughing it... I mean the van was one of those Mercedes vans...
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:54 pm to
The thing to remember about Pomplamoose, is that they are NOT a struggling band, trying to eke out a meager living, hoping to make the big time.

They are a long established "Youtube" band, with well over 100 million views; they earn about $5000/month from iTunes and other downloading services; Jack Conte started the website Patreon, which allows people to support their favorite bands or artists through donations(kind of like a "Kickstarter" for artists). He gets a cut of every donation on Patreon. Pomplamoose gets $6000 to make every video; They have appeared in many national commercials (I'm sure y'all remember the Hyundai Christmas commercials from a few years ago).

They have plenty of money. I'm sure they earn well over six figures, but they pour most of their money back into the band via instruments and A/V equipment. I think Conte released this information because he thought it would be interesting to his fans and beneficial to other bands.

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