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turning point on miles
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:07 pm
When Jennings got nicked vs bama, miles did not give Harris a chance. This was a "personal" decision and not a "professional" decision in my opinion, and you are free to have your opinion.
les miles had an opinion on RP and BH and those opinions changed, because les miles didn't know what was in their heart. In the same sense I don't know what is in les miles heart but I can have an opinion just like les miles had an opinion on RP and BH. And les miles opinion changed on RP and BH so likewise my opinion can change on les miles
les miles had an opinion on RP and BH and those opinions changed, because les miles didn't know what was in their heart. In the same sense I don't know what is in les miles heart but I can have an opinion just like les miles had an opinion on RP and BH. And les miles opinion changed on RP and BH so likewise my opinion can change on les miles
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:09 pm to JETigER
1/9/12
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:12 pm to MarlinMan
quote:Pick 6-gate and 1/9/12.
turning point on miles
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:14 pm to sjmabry
No, It was 2 weeks ago at Arky.
that was the beginning of the end for less.
that was the beginning of the end for less.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:15 pm to CptBengal
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:16 pm to BeeFense5
no way
we are a QB away in 2015 - watch
we are a QB away in 2015 - watch
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:17 pm to JETigER
1/9/12...period!
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:20 pm to sjmabry
It wasn't so much Bama for me. It was the Pigs. Middle of 3rd Quarter down 10-0 and D playing well. I don't blame Martin and Mills trying to scoop that fumble because they had watched the offense all game do nothing. No excuse after 17-0 unless there is something we don't know about. None.
Very similar to 1-9-12, what did LSU have to lose.
Very similar to 1-9-12, what did LSU have to lose.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:29 pm to BeeFense5
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BeeFense5
Not really sure what funny about his post. While not exactly "the beginning of the end", Miles is not in near as good of standing with the fanbase as he was 3 years ago. He's always had a portion of the fanbase that hasn't liked him, but the majority of us always supported him. That's no longer the case as now most LSU fans I talk to are no longer happy with Miles. It may not be completely warranted, but that's the reality of the situation.
Also, With the expectations that many fans have for next season, anything less than a West title is going to leave most of use with a bad taste in our mouths. Add in another year of incompetence from the QB position, whoever the starter is, and Miles' seat is going to start getting a tad bit uncomfortable IMO.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:31 pm to JETigER
1/9 Never Forget
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:12 pm to RB10
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Also, With the expectations that many fans have for next season, anything less than a West title is going to leave most of use with a bad taste in our mouths.
...or at least still be in contention for the West in November, not out of it in early October.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:15 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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...or at least still be in contention for the West in November, not out of it in early October
Nah I think it's West title or bust next year for Les. Most of the fan base seems to be fed up with being "just one game away".
ETA: or one drive, play, minute, etc.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:29 pm to JETigER
2011 was LSU's glory year. Unbeaten, ranked #1, acclaimed. CLM wormed JJ back into the starting role after the Bama win (JJ did well that game when JL didn't). But dumping a very effective JL from then onward, IMO, was a telling sign of a coach who was going to have his way, regardless of what was best for the team. This, of course, was culminated on 1/9/12. That was the day Nick Saban planted his flag in the heart of the LSU Nation and twisted it, and CLM had nothing to do or say to even contest that. He was done.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:36 pm to JawjaTigah
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But dumping a very effective JL from then onward, IMO, was a telling sign of a coach who was going to have his way, regardless of what was best for the team.
He knew we were going to have to play Bama Again
And he thought JJ gave us the best opportunity to do that.
Given JL's abysmal track record against Bama, that isn't as crazy as people like to think.
JL folded like a lawn chair under pressure, and our Oline did nothing in the championship game. He couldn't' have done any worse than JJ, but honestly there is nothing to indicate he would have done better.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:47 pm to SammyTiger
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JL folded like a lawn chair under pressure
Except for those games the prior year when Miles put him in the 4th quarter. But that's not the point it's
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He couldn't' have done any worse than JJ
At least TRY something. And it's not like he was playing bad that year. He was leading the league in passing efficiency when he was benched. You try it. You try to win.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:48 pm to SammyTiger
quote:CLM's only correct guess in this matter.
He knew we were going to have to play Bama Again
quote:And his first big mistake - assuming Nick Saban had no other facets than what he showed in Tuscaloosa and would not have obsessively analyzed what "went wrong" for Bama and done whatever it took to change that and find an advantage.
And he thought JJ gave us the best opportunity to do that.
quote:JL's 2011 season as a whole piece of work was pretty good. Possible that maybe the Tusca-Bama game was the abberation? When JJ laid his egg on the field, what was really crazy was that CLM had not just JL but even a young Mett on the bench. You could be sure that Mett would have been green - but if between the first Bama game and the championship game, CLM/LSU had done some intentional things to quietly prep Mett to step in, that would have caught Saban by total surprise. Likewise, to just reinsert JL in that game might have set things off balance in Saban-land enough to at least make the game interesting. And who knows, maybe JL could have righted himself and led the team to a win. But CLM did none of the above. He put on his brook trout face and let JJ sink and the team with him.
Given JL's abysmal track record against Bama, that isn't as crazy as people like to think.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:49 pm to JETigER
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When Jennings got nicked vs bama, miles did not give Harris a chance. This was a "personal" decision and not a "professional" decision in my opinion, and you are free to have your opinion.
les miles had an opinion on RP and BH and those opinions changed, because les miles didn't know what was in their heart. In the same sense I don't know what is in les miles heart but I can have an opinion just like les miles had an opinion on RP and BH. And les miles opinion changed on RP and BH so likewise my opinion can change on les miles
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:51 pm to JawjaTigah
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JL's 2011 season as a whole piece of work was pretty good. Possible that maybe the Tusca-Bama game was the abberation? When JJ laid his egg on the field, what was really crazy was that CLM had not just JL but even a young Mett on the bench. You could be sure that Mett would have been green - but if between the first Bama game and the championship game, CLM/LSU had done some intentional things to quietly prep Mett to step in, that would have caught Saban by total surprise. Likewise, to just reinsert JL in that game might have set things off balance in Saban-land enough to at least make the game interesting. And who knows, maybe JL could have righted himself and led the team to a win. But CLM did none of the above. He put on his brook trout face and let JJ sink and the team with him.
It was literally the worst coaching job in history at that level.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:52 pm to JawjaTigah
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2011 was LSU's glory year. Unbeaten, ranked #1, acclaimed. CLM wormed JJ back into the starting role after the Bama win (JJ did well that game when JL didn't). But dumping a very effective JL from then onward, IMO, was a telling sign of a coach who was going to have his way, regardless of what was best for the team. This, of course, was culminated on 1/9/12. That was the day Nick Saban planted his flag in the heart of the LSU Nation and twisted it, and CLM had nothing to do or say to even contest that. He was done.
This is all just rumor mill, but one of the backup linemen on the team told a friend (they had been high school teammates, but the friend blew out his knee) this story which he relayed to me:
After the Game of the Century, when JJ took over the starting role, the team quickly became very divided. About half of the team wanted JL back starting with about half either not caring or wanting JJ. After JJ's performance against Arkansas, the tide started to shift towards JL and the team began to really fragment. They nearly fell apart in the SEC Championship Game. After that, the majority of the team was solidly in the JL camp, but Miles wouldn't budge. Sensing he was losing control of his team, Miles went to JL and told him that no matter what, he would not be playing in the title game. The offensive line, JL's biggest supporters, were livid, and we saw what happened when they played for a QB they didn't want nor believed in. In the 4th Quarter, after Alabama went up 21-0, Les turned to JL and asked him "Hey, do you want a shot?" JL said "frick you" and walked into the locker room. We all know the rest.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:54 pm to etm512
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Except for those games the prior year when Miles put him in the 4th quarter. But that's not the point it's
well by pressure i meant a pass rush.
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At least TRY something. And it's not like he was playing bad that year. He was leading the league in passing efficiency when he was benched. You try it. You try to win.
I know everyone wanted Les to just anything to change the outcome of that game, but that doesn't mean JL was the answer.
les was trying to win, and he was doing what he thought gave us the best chance to win.
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