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re: Wilson's own account about what happened on the day he shot Michael Brown

Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Thief warrants being killed?

Nope. But charging at a police officer after previously attacking him and trying to take his gun does.

How easily you dismiss elements of the whole story depending on your need for the moment.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

.not going to drag a dead man's name through the mud.


So, just ignore the events that lead to his death? .

I think this is also the Brown family attorney's strategy and also Rev Al.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124195 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:38 pm to
Morals ?

WTf does any of this have to do with morals ?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56191 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:39 pm to
What parts don't add up. And make it a part that happens before brown decides to physically engage the officer.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36397 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:40 pm to
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If Ezra doesn't believe the cop's story then he must believe that Wilson was just in the mood to kill someone that day and Brown was in the wrong place at the wrong time.



Ezra also completely ignores any of the witness reports which incidentally undermine his argument.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:40 pm to
No. "Theft" doesn't warrant being killed. Neither does strong armed robbery unless the store owner was armed and felt his life was in danger. Brown could have died earlier in the day.

Ignoring the events prior to his death is weird.

Strong arm robbery
Failure to comply
Assault a police officer
Failure to comply again

Dead.

Lots of chances that day to live UNLESS you think Wilson was just out to kill someone that day. If that is your belief then yeah, you win.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
I think that it might add up well enough for the most part, but the verbiage and phrasing on some of it seems like certain things are exaggerated or kind of small things are possibly made up to justify the officer using lethal force.

For example, Brown reaching under his shirt near the waste line to suggest that Brown might have been reaching for a weapon and the officer focusing on that seems like it might be contrived. It's possible that the officer was just reacting to a traumatic circumstance and adding that line attempts to slam home justification.

Who knows though? I have no idea what happened. Much of the other stuff seems like it may be reasonable enough.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Ezra also completely ignores any of the witness reports which incidentally undermine his argument.



That wouldn't help the number of page visits for his article.
Posted by Jreily85
Member since Nov 2014
590 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Thief warrants being killed?


Depends on the circumstances. You break into my house and you're likely going to die. Theft is illegal. There is no justifying it. Get a fricking job if you want to own things.

quote:

No I just have morals..not going to drag a dead man's name through the mud.


You have no morals. You don't mind dragging an officer's name, who a grand jury determined shouldnt be brought to trial, through the mud. I haven't been here very long but it seems that every post tat I have seen from you is in a race related thread.

You're on a roll here lately.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:59 pm to
A living man can defend himself. And he did.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24337 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

A living man can defend himself. And he did.


Do you care to explain how Brown's DNA was on Wilson's gun? Was he just trying to save himself of some shite?


I'll wait.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:01 pm to
He spoke with a lawyer and they probably told him to vilify brown in whatever light he could.

The demonization of brown was comical because I just find it odd that our brave armed serviceman was scared of a man with the same stature as him. I wouldn't want that guy on the streets protecting our women and children.

Where are all the posters that were screaming about the broken eye socket ?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24337 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

He spoke with a lawyer and they probably told him to vilify brown in whatever light he could.

The demonization of brown was comical because I just find it odd that our brave armed serviceman was scared of a man with the same stature as him. I wouldn't want that guy on the streets protecting our women and children.

Where are all the posters that were screaming about the broken eye socket ?


Same stature? This match up would've been like having Trey Quinn go up against Quentin Thomas.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:03 pm to
I'm not doubting that Michael brown was involved in the struggle that lead to his death, if that's tbe evidence, we have laws that protect our cops. That's what it is.

What I'm saying is that I'm skeptical of Wilsons statement, ESPEICALLY after he had a month of legal counsel. As if that isn't important
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:03 pm to
I'm not doubting that Michael brown was involved in the struggle that lead to his death, if that's tbe evidence, we have laws that protect our cops. That's what it is.

What I'm saying is that I'm skeptical of Wilsons statement, ESPEICALLY after he had a month of legal counsel. As if that isn't important
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:04 pm to
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I just find it odd that our brave armed serviceman was scared of a man with the same stature as him.


The above statement is strange when you said Wilson was two inches shorter and 90 pounds lighter earlier. It's actually telling.

You don't like it when criminals are called criminals. Got it.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

They are grieving parents, do you really expect them to?This is so off base and asisine of a comment to make.


When I was 17, I was jumped by three guys at a party. I was beaten within an inch of my life. Adrenaline allowed me to fight them off, make it to a car and escape.

I spent a week in the hospital. I had plastic surgery to repair the damage around my eyes. Oral surgery to repair some busted teeth. I still can't feel certain portions of the right side of my face.

You know what my Dad asked when he saw me in the hospital?

What did you do to piss someone off that they would beat you this bad?

He automatically assumed that if you get in a bad situation, you likely did something stupid to get there. Most of the time he would be right.

It took the DA prosecuting the three guys with attempted murder for my father to finally believe I was completely innocent and the victim of mistaken identity.

So, don't give me this shite that his parents get some pass about the events leading up to the shooting because they are grieving.

They know their son.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:05 pm to
No wilson states he is 6'4 210.

Brown was 6'4 300.

Please read Wilsons testimony.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24337 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

I'm not doubting that Michael brown was involved in the struggle that lead to his death, if that's tbe evidence, we have laws that protect our cops. That's what it is.

What I'm saying is that I'm skeptical of Wilsons statement, ESPEICALLY after he had a month of legal counsel. As if that isn't important


And multiple eye witnesses back up that story. What exactly are you arguing about here?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24337 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

No wilson states he is 6'4 210.

Brown was 6'4 300.

Please read Wilsons testimony.


Ok. So this would've been like Travin Dural going against Quentin Thomas.
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