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Ferguson is not about Mike Brown

Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:57 am
I think we all know this.

It's about two different cultures within our society. It's about the haves and have-nots. The oppressed and their perceived oppressors.

Know what the unemployment rate is for blacks in Ferguson? 16%. And, that is the official unemployment.

Know what the median household income in Ferguson is? $10,000.

There is pent-up frustration but instead of being constructive, the frustration leads to destruction of their own infrastructure and businesses.




Now, we get to the crux of the issue. Why are the above statistics happening to the black population of Ferguson? Since it can't be a cultural problem, it must be because of the white man. The police, gov't, schools, businesses that won't hire us. So, instead of using this terrible issue (an unarmed person should probably not be killed by a police officer) as a point of reflection, they are baited by their "leaders" to rampage and show "White America" a sort of window into their society which will further instill the self-fulfilling prophecy of maladjusted behavior.

And, as Wu-Tang said, "The saga continues". The cycle of the distancing of two different cultures will continue to grow in our nation until we work together to solve them.



Bonus fact dejour: The FBI keeps criminal statistics on nearly every category on crime in our nation. But you don't what they don't keep any numbers on? Police shootings. There is nothing out there that will tell us how many people are killed or wounded by law enforcement. Wonder why?
Posted by chadg
The Avoyelles Parish
Member since Dec 2007
2878 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Bonus fact dejour: The FBI keeps criminal statistics on nearly every category on crime in our nation. But you don't what they don't keep any numbers on? Police shootings. There is nothing out there that will tell us how many people are killed or wounded by law enforcement. Wonder why?


Because it is not a criminal statistic?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

It's about the haves and have-nots. The oppressed and their perceived oppressors.

I don't know if that holds a lot of water. Not many poor whites out there burning down a city.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:06 am to
quote:

The oppressed and their perceived oppressors.


who is oppressed?

who are the oppressors?

Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24337 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:08 am to
quote:

It's about two different cultures within our society. It's about the haves and have-nots. The oppressed and their perceived oppressors.


There are more white people living in poverty than black people.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:08 am to
This is about a culture of victimization and the desire to blame others for our own problems.

Why is Brown's life worth more to African Americans than the lives of thousands of other young AAs that are killed by other AAs in these same communities?

If you are wanting to fix problems around you, you must first look at your own problems and deal with them first.

This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Not many poor whites out there burning down a city


Nor are they blaming someone else for the fact that they are poor. I'm white and grew up poor. I didn't even think to "blame" anyone. It's just the way things were and made me not want to be that way forever. Not once did I think about burning something or busting into a booze or cell phone store and taking things that didn't belong to me.

My parents taught me that hard work and determination would one day pay off, it did. I'll bet you a dime to a dollar not many of the looters last night have been taught that.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

If you are wanting to fix problems around you, you must first look at your own problems and deal with them first.


Precisely.

It's cultural.

Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18052 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Know what the unemployment rate is for blacks in Ferguson? 16%. And, that is the official unemployment.


And it's fixing to go up again now that all those democrats had their little party last night.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68445 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:12 am to
The problem is that a significant population of African Americans blame everyone else for their own problems and they continue to be manipulated by the Jesse Jackson's and al sharptons of the world. They rely more on emotions and not logic. Time to use the brain
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

This is about a culture of victimization and the desire to blame others for our own problems.

/thread
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41055 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:16 am to
It's a culture issue.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:18 am to
I'm gonna need a link for your stats.

Median household income in 2012 was $36k.

Eta: it looks like you confused household net worth with income.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:21 am to
quote:

It's about two different cultures within our society. It's about the haves and have-nots. The oppressed and their perceived oppressors.

Know what the unemployment rate is for blacks in Ferguson? 16%. And, that is the official unemployment.
You are clueless. those punk teenagers were stealing stuff from that market because they weren't raised with morals or discipline. There are millions of have-nots who are white that aren't looting markets.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:21 am to
quote:

The FBI keeps criminal statistics on nearly every category on crime in our nation. But you don't what they don't keep any numbers on? Police shootings. There is nothing out there that will tell us how many people are killed or wounded by law enforcement. Wonder why?

Because when we realized that about as many civilians holding a BB gun are shot by police in a year as police are shot by criminals, we'd all riot. Well obviously not the cop lovers. Everyone else.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:30 am to
quote:

It's a culture issue.


Right.

What's the wedlock birth of AA? 72%.

What's the highschool graduation rate of black males? 48%. Overall, graduation rates for all blacks is at 62%.

Those above figures are simply not sustainable for upward mobility, and the cycle will grow nearly exponentially as it has for the past 40 years.

Now that we have had several posters agree with that, can we now agree that there may systematic racism built within the constructs of our society?

Take for instance the War on Drugs? Racist? I say absolutely. Remember the crack to cocaine sentencing disparity?

Take LBJ and The Great Society. That line of thinking (not deliberately) destroyed two-three generations of poor minorities.


I think it is BOTH a cultural problem and a social construct problem. Ever heard of critical race theory? It basically states that racism is built within our social structure (laws), and from a decade of researching our nation's drug laws, I can confirm without a doubt that this exists.



Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11413 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Know what the unemployment rate is for blacks in Ferguson? 16%. And, that is the official unemployment.

Know what the median household income in Ferguson is? $10,000.



How the frick did they get a Quizno's with stats like that, while I'm stuck with the peasants eating Subway?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Know what the unemployment rate is for blacks in Ferguson? 16%.


that would make Ferguson the model for black youth employment success.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Ferguson is not about Mike Brown
I think we all know this.
It's about the elite keeping us divided and distracted while they continue to loot all of us.

quote:

they are baited by their "leaders" to rampage
This cannot be stressed enough.
Their "leaders" or more aptly named, "provocateurs," are in place to make sure race continues to be a strong dividing force.
Posted by RudeDog11
Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
359 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:44 am to
AMEN. Preach on brother, and the truth will set you free!
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