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Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:27 am to VOR
quote:Where is the outrage?
Where is it swept under the rug?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:30 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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Where is the outrage?
In the sense I assume you mean it, the question has already been answered when it comes to a single event. Perceived "institutional" killing vs. individual action by a thug.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:32 am to germandawg
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As distrustful as y'all claim to be of the state y'all should be singing the praises of the good people protesting the use of deadly force against a citizen because it makes it hard as hell to use such tactics without cause
well their time came and went long ago. this board has a large anti-protest streak also (which i fall into. protests are pointless)
at the time this happened, it was like "ok protest and get it over with". months later? they're just being glory hogs now
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And if the person who was killed was not black y'all would be up in arms about the state overstepping its bounds.
there was a HUGE streak of anti-cop discussions on here after brown was shot, and this was well before the media feigned an interest
the trayvon martin situation also displayed a lot of knee-jerk reactions irrationally supporting the victim, but as more and more information came out, the feelings started to trend back a bit to self defense
what's oft-ignored are the cases like the "radio is too loud" shooting in florida wehre there was almost a universal "he murdered that kid" feeling. white people didn't protest when that piece of shite was found guilty of murder.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:33 am to VOR
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Perceived "institutional" killing vs. individual action by a thug.
that doesn't explain trayvon
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:41 am to the808bass
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This is where I was until a fuller picture of the initial confrontation came out. Brown was a common thief who appears to have decided to "keep it real" against a police officer. There's no real need to deeply question the state's force here. There was a struggle inside the car and that backs the officer's story.
+1
Anytime an unarmed suspect is shot by the police, there has to be a rational explanation, supported by the evidence, offered by the authorities. That's not unreasonable - they're allowed this sanction of force and violence and must answer for it when it is used. In this case the initial narrative was particularly bad - unarmed black teenager shot multiple times in the back in broad daylight - implicitly minding his own business. Every single bit of evidence since then has gone against that narrative, except that he was unarmed (yes, he was a teenager, but being an 18/19 year old "giant" trumps that, I believe). Which still requires an explanation, but I believe we have it.
What am I missing?
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 7:43 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:33 am to Strannix
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Two dead 3 year old black girls
Apparently not news worthy to rioters.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:45 am to Big Scrub TX
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One is street crime one is institutional. Figure out the difference and grow up.
How many blacks are killed each year by "street crime" and how many by what you say is "institutional"
Perhaps if thug Mike hadn't just committed felony strong arm robbery against a poor diminutive Asian immigrant he might still be alive today.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:51 am to Strannix
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one in Shreveport
In that particular case the little girl was being held in the arms of a family member when the girl was struck by the bullet. News reports don't indicate whether the family member was the target of the shooter. It doesn't sound like a stray bullet situation because how often does an innocent bystander walk around with a 3 year old in his arms?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:52 am to VOR
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Where is it swept under the rug? It's discussed in N.O. all the time in the newspapers and on TV.
This is from today's Picayune:
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A man was gunned down Sunday shortly after 8 p.m. in the 7th Ward.
The man lay dead on his back on the side of the Interstate 10 entrance near the intersection of North Claiborne Avenue and St. Anthony Street. His arms were outstretched, and his left shin appeared to be snapped inward.
At least five bystanders said the man ran up the Interstate highway’s on-ramp while being shot at before jumping over the edge, about 10 feet above the ground.
A gold Chevrolet Malibu with a bullet hole in the passenger side of the windshield was parked in the grass about 20 yards from the dead man.
A woman who declined to be identified said he was her 26-year-old cousin.
At about 8:30 p.m., music boomed from the Upper Level, a night club about a block away on Pauger Street, as bystanders on North Claiborne’s neutral ground watched detectives work. A small group of family members huddled on the median.
Police had roped off an area stretching from the Upper Level to just past the Malibu. Cars zipped by up the dark on-ramp. None of the lights on the ramp were lit.
A detective, being followed by a First 48 videographer, walked up and down the incline searching with a flashlight. He discovered at least 10 bullet casings. Police then closed the ramp.
At about 9:30 p.m., the family had moved to another area near the crime scene. A woman ran under the police line, screaming and crying. A few people grabbed her and pulled her back.
Moments later, several others began crying, prompting family members to console them.
Another woman, a cousin of the dead man, ran under the police line with her arms outstretched toward his body as a representative of the Orleans Parish Coroner’s Office snapped photos of the scene.
Officers had to grab her and escort her back behind the police line.
“Lord, why? Lord, why?” she yelled. “Dear God, why?”
Please tell me you don't really see how the coverage of this lacks the moral outrage of a Ferguson? It doesn't even mention race (though it does have a picture that I didn't copy). If this is what you mean by coverage of black on black violence, I think you are missing the point. This is just police blotter stuff. Oh, sure, there is an annual article or two on the subject, but it is hardly discussed "all the time."
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There are several primarily black civic organizations who are trying to address it publicly.
One of the reasons I don't think it gets discussed much is that there aren't any easy answers. I am curious who these groups are and (more importantly) what they see as a solution.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:16 am to Strannix
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:52 am to Strannix
Sad but true. Hope the Grand Jury gets the decision out soon. Only 31 shopping days til Christmas. Gonna need the smash and grab discount.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:14 pm to VOR
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Where is it swept under the rug? It's discussed in N.O. all the time in the newspapers and on TV. There are several primarily black civic organizations who are trying to address it publicly
It can't be denied that this overwhelming problem doesn't get the media scrutiny that, say a Trayvon or Brown situation gets.
That's a travesty and it's shameful.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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One is street crime one is institutional. Figure out the difference and grow up.
So one is acceptable and one is not? Gotcha.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:29 pm to Strannix
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and probably tried to take a cops gun.
Either he did or he didn't. Ain't no such thing as probably. Everyone is speculating, including you.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:17 pm to Mie2cents
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Either he did or he didn't. Ain't no such thing as probably
We will do know what he did do, commit strong arm felony robbery the day he had a confrontation with the police that led to his death. Now whether or not the police officer knew, Michael brown knew, now anyone with half a brain cell knows that would have certainly influenced this thugs behavior towards the cop.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:50 pm to bamarep
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It can't be denied that this overwhelming problem doesn't get the media scrutiny that, say a Trayvon or Brown situation gets.
True. That's why the media did not cover the Wichita Massacre. They didn't even make a movie about it.
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This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:53 pm
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