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re: Sub Zero Refrigerators
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:48 pm to RollTheRock
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:48 pm to RollTheRock
We have one in the kitchen and that thing is absolutely awesome. Built like a tank.
Also have a broken viking in the garage that is very nice as well
Also have a broken viking in the garage that is very nice as well
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:49 pm to RollTheRock
Never owned one, but have heard you "should" vacuum the vented are above monthly. Also, you will need a isolated 20 amp power source to a specific location for it to set back and meet their warranty regs.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:50 pm to RollTheRock
house had one when we bought it. lasted about 20 years. difficult finding someone to service it and parts were $$$ when it crapped out
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:52 pm to RollTheRock
Get one. Be sure to bitch like everyone else that the economy is not treating you well and raising your wages enough when you get pissed off and can't pay your bills.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:53 pm to RollTheRock
You buy them just so you can say you have a Sub Zero and to show your friends.
They are not worth their price.
They are not worth their price.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:54 pm to RollTheRock
Very quality product, we have had a few over years and had no issues. Currently have a fridge in kitchen, beverage fridge and wine cooler at house at beach.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:56 pm to RollTheRock
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Sub Zero Refrigerators
the 120 volt version of yeti
Posted on 11/23/14 at 5:57 pm to Marco Esquandolas
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I have one and it is built to another level--it is not about looks.
I have a different experience. I don't have one but a friend of mine does. He bought it for his new house.
The thing went out after 3 years and he had to have it serviced. After 6 years, it began to make a very loud vibrating sound. Serviced again and this time it cost him around $700 to repair.
But it is big, looks nice, and keeps things cold and/or frozen.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:22 pm to piratedude
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the 120 volt version of yeti
This right here. Wonder if it comes with a sticker
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:10 pm to RollTheRock
I don't have one but I think it has two compressors. Two totally separate cooling systems for each side. Part of the reason they cost so much.We have the GE Monogram. Running great for the last eleven years.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:17 pm to RollTheRock
I just had one put in- new construction. Here was my experience....
1. Much like already mentioned, people who OWN one will mostly have good experiences. Napoleon has commented a number of times that he doesn't work on them often, IIRC he's indicated that's likely an indicator of good quality.
2. People who don't have one seem to have this syndrome about bashing them. They all have a "friend" who has had nothing but trouble. Parts were expensive, etc. I thought the 12 year parts warranty on major items was pretty generous. I'd like to see LG offer that.
3. One of their big selling features is that produce will stay fresher. I thought this was total bullshite....until we got one. I don't know how it does it, but it seems almost impossible for fruits and vegetables to go bad. We had little bin of the Cherub cherry tomatoes that you get at Walmart- in there for what seemed like a month- still looking like the day they were bought.
4. It is a motherfricker to install. Our dealer didn't offer installation and my contractor hadn't done many. I took off one day and did it with his interior guy. If you follow the very detailed instuctions it'll be fine. But when they say the opening needs to be 35.5" or whatever, they mean it.
5. Ice- mine has a normal ice maker in it. I saw where someone complained about that. I would say that probably most installations have a built in ice maker somewhere else in the kitchen- we do and it's awesome. 15" Scotsman that makes nugget ice like Sonic. It was a splurge that we put in the kitchen and we all really like it. I have never had one cube from the Sub Zero.
6. Quality, Appearance, Etc. I have to give it to them- when you unpack it, it's obvious that someone skilled built it. It's not slave labor Chinese garbage. That meant a lot to me. Also, if you do panels to match your cabinets,EVERYONE who sees it will comment about how cool that is- the Yeti factor. I was surprised how few people have seen one in real life.
Sorry for the long post, but you seem legit and we just went through it. I would do it again.
To make it more complicated- make sure to get a Wolf stove also. We thought that was a crock of shite too and it cooks awesome. Oven makes the most wonderful baked items we've ever had.
1. Much like already mentioned, people who OWN one will mostly have good experiences. Napoleon has commented a number of times that he doesn't work on them often, IIRC he's indicated that's likely an indicator of good quality.
2. People who don't have one seem to have this syndrome about bashing them. They all have a "friend" who has had nothing but trouble. Parts were expensive, etc. I thought the 12 year parts warranty on major items was pretty generous. I'd like to see LG offer that.
3. One of their big selling features is that produce will stay fresher. I thought this was total bullshite....until we got one. I don't know how it does it, but it seems almost impossible for fruits and vegetables to go bad. We had little bin of the Cherub cherry tomatoes that you get at Walmart- in there for what seemed like a month- still looking like the day they were bought.
4. It is a motherfricker to install. Our dealer didn't offer installation and my contractor hadn't done many. I took off one day and did it with his interior guy. If you follow the very detailed instuctions it'll be fine. But when they say the opening needs to be 35.5" or whatever, they mean it.
5. Ice- mine has a normal ice maker in it. I saw where someone complained about that. I would say that probably most installations have a built in ice maker somewhere else in the kitchen- we do and it's awesome. 15" Scotsman that makes nugget ice like Sonic. It was a splurge that we put in the kitchen and we all really like it. I have never had one cube from the Sub Zero.
6. Quality, Appearance, Etc. I have to give it to them- when you unpack it, it's obvious that someone skilled built it. It's not slave labor Chinese garbage. That meant a lot to me. Also, if you do panels to match your cabinets,EVERYONE who sees it will comment about how cool that is- the Yeti factor. I was surprised how few people have seen one in real life.
Sorry for the long post, but you seem legit and we just went through it. I would do it again.
To make it more complicated- make sure to get a Wolf stove also. We thought that was a crock of shite too and it cooks awesome. Oven makes the most wonderful baked items we've ever had.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:33 pm to reds on reds on reds
Sub Zero fridge is worth every penny, as is Wolf stove/ovens. It is a "get what you pay for" type thing. Not meant to show off. Our Sub looks basic, and you wouldn't notice unless pointed out.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:42 pm to Snatchy
I don't think I saw it mentioned in this thread yet, but one of the best things about a subzero is the fact that it makes absolutely no noise.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:16 pm to Marco Esquandolas
correct. Though my advice is to buy a used 500 or 600 series Subzero and get new panels for the doors. Those things are analog and will last for 40 years.
The newer ones use the same computers that mess all appliances up. Engineered obsolescence.
Yes a new fridge will most likely have a catastrophic failure in about 5-6 years.
Old fridges ran on timers and analog control. A timer breaks...well you can get one for $10 on Amazon. A control board goes bad and you are looking at $150-300 for the part only. Hell the premium built in Kitchenaid fridges have boards that even top $1,000.
That is just nuts.
In the name of energy efficiency units have switched to being "smart" which leads to more things that break.
A 1999 Subzero will outlive a 2014 subzero.
My advice is to always buy the cheapest appliance that you can put up with. Cheaper units use older technology and will last much longer.
When you see touch screens and lots of electronics be wary. You WILL either be replacing that unit or seeing a $400 repair bill in five years.
And yes not all fridges fail, but when the control board fridges do fail, you can't just get them going again by turning a hidden dial with a flat blade screwdriver.
On the inside and out my Subzero is just as nice as a new unit. Even has panels from a 2010 unit. But it was made in 1997. I will keep it going forever as there is little on it to fail.
The Amana it replaced needed work constantly.
Though the kicker is, a lot of the Subzero parts are made by FSP, which is owned by Whirlpool.
Always trips me out A FSP control is $120 and the same part number with Sub Zero wrapping is $475. Stuff like that gets me.
The newer ones use the same computers that mess all appliances up. Engineered obsolescence.
Yes a new fridge will most likely have a catastrophic failure in about 5-6 years.
Old fridges ran on timers and analog control. A timer breaks...well you can get one for $10 on Amazon. A control board goes bad and you are looking at $150-300 for the part only. Hell the premium built in Kitchenaid fridges have boards that even top $1,000.
That is just nuts.
In the name of energy efficiency units have switched to being "smart" which leads to more things that break.
A 1999 Subzero will outlive a 2014 subzero.
My advice is to always buy the cheapest appliance that you can put up with. Cheaper units use older technology and will last much longer.
When you see touch screens and lots of electronics be wary. You WILL either be replacing that unit or seeing a $400 repair bill in five years.
And yes not all fridges fail, but when the control board fridges do fail, you can't just get them going again by turning a hidden dial with a flat blade screwdriver.
On the inside and out my Subzero is just as nice as a new unit. Even has panels from a 2010 unit. But it was made in 1997. I will keep it going forever as there is little on it to fail.
The Amana it replaced needed work constantly.
Though the kicker is, a lot of the Subzero parts are made by FSP, which is owned by Whirlpool.
Always trips me out A FSP control is $120 and the same part number with Sub Zero wrapping is $475. Stuff like that gets me.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:20 pm to RollTheRock
If you can fit it in your budget, then it's worth it. Definitely not necessary, but we went with it more for looks than anything. Doesn't have an exterior ice maker, but we have a built in ice maker in the bar, so I never use it anyway.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:36 pm to Napoleon
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Though the kicker is, a lot of the Subzero parts are made by FSP, which is owned by Whirlpool.
Always trips me out A FSP control is $120 and the same part number with Sub Zero wrapping is $475. Stuff like that gets me.
If it's the same part, why don't you buy the FSP part and install in the SubZ? Just curious.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:03 pm to RollTheRock
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Sub Zero Refrigerators}
You mean a freezer?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:22 pm to ruzil
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If it's the same part, why don't you buy the FSP part and install in the SubZ? Just curious.
I Do. I have to explain that it is not the "factory" part (non-OEM) but you can compare them side by side and the only difference is the color of the plastic body.
Saves my customers and gets me a positive Yelp review.
(for in-warranty repairs YOU HAVE to use OEM.)
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:23 pm to Napoleon
Thanks for the reply. Your customers truly are lucky to have you service their appliances.
Mad props.
Mad props.
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