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re: Why do most conservatives embrace a lack of evidence re: climate change but not religion?
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:26 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:26 pm to Lsupimp
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PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE A RELIGION AT LEAST HAVE THE FRAMEWORK OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF HUMAN CIVILIZATION TO SUPPORT THEM.
I guess this explains the board's support of Islam.
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:26 pm to LSUlunatic
Because religion gets poured into your young psyche between the ages of 0-6 when there is no ability to filter or use critical thinking regarding the information going in. It is brainwashing plain and simple. Your religion is a function of geography, culture and psychological conditioning. People don't reason their way into religious beliefs and therefore you can't use reason to get them out of it. Bottom line.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:29 pm to tigerfootball10
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Cause anyone with 2 brain cells can see that MAN MADE climate change is a hoax.
As is MAN MADE religion.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:31 pm to Blue Velvet
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Different hoax for different folks.
Nice.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:33 pm to MMauler
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Liberals view climate change as his/her faith -- only in more of a cultish manner.
I doubt that seriously. Of course, I was raised Southern Baptist. You were probably Catholic. World of difference.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:35 pm to genuineLSUtiger
The physiological component is interesting as well. Man is wired for God/faith/religion etc.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:36 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Because religion gets poured into your young psyche between the ages of 0-6 when there is no ability to filter or use critical thinking regarding the information going in
Its already there. Its in finding it again in this world that is the true journey.
There is so much incorrect in your post. Sorry to tell you but many 1-6 years old had no religion "poured" into them at all only to find faith later in their life. I know this goes against your point but its the truth.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:43 pm to Lsupimp
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Man is wired for God/faith/religion etc.
Man is wired for spirituality. Not religion. All religions are man's attempt to describe an underlying spiritual dimension to life. But they are perverted by patriarchic notions of "God". Religions are corrupt manmade institutions. Evidenced by the fact that they pit humanity against humanity and always have throughout history. There is no arguing that fact.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:44 pm to tigerfootball10
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Cause anyone with 2 brain cells can see that MAN MADE climate change is a hoax.
One could just as flippantly say the same about organized religion.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:49 pm to Lsupimp
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Man is wired for God/faith/religion etc.
Man is wired for curiosity and suspicion as they are vital to our survival. At some point our minds evolved beyond the simple "what is that rustling in the bushes, better run away" to "what are those bright lights in the sky". From this arose a sense of spirituality and, eventually, the development of religion.
When you ask "why am I hear and what does God want from me", you're using a process with the same biological roots as those that cause an animal to wonder about it's immediate surroundings.
In many ways, spirituality and religion are an accident of evolution, the result of necessary traits expanded beyond their primary purpose by sentient creatures.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:53 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Man is wired for spirituality. Not religion. All religions are man's attempt to describe an underlying spiritual dimension to life. But they are perverted by patriarchic notions of "God". Religions are corrupt manmade institutions. Evidenced by the fact that they pit humanity against humanity and always have throughout history. There is no arguing that fact.
You know how a 13 year old says something they think is so profound that it has never been said before and the adults just nod politely ?
Because, umm...
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:53 pm to Roger Klarvin
I follow Buddhist philosophy. It is more of a life philosophy than religion. I believe that there is a life force in the universe that flows through all living entitities. That impulse is loving and evolutionary. Man perverts that life force in many ways but man also demonstrates the reality of that life force everyday in loving, sacrificial ways. Good and evil are simply functions of living in accordance with or against that living, evolving creative impulse.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:54 pm to LSUlunatic
it's called faith for a reason
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
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"what are those bright lights in the sky". From this arose a sense of spirituality and, eventually, the development of religion.
Well that clears a lot of big things right up!
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:00 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Man is wired for curiosity and suspicion as they are vital to our survival. At some point our minds evolved beyond the simple "what is that rustling in the bushes, better run away" to "what are those bright lights in the sky". From this arose a sense of spirituality and, eventually, the development of religion. When you ask "why am I hear and what does God want from me", you're using a process with the same biological roots as those that cause an animal to wonder about it's immediate surroundings. In many ways, spirituality and religion are an accident of evolution, the result of necessary traits expanded beyond their primary purpose by sentient creatures.
Totally agree, RK. The fascinating thing, is that Science having proved that the whole Perceived Universe, exists in a warp of Relative Time. So, if one were to look back from the infinite future...there would be a PERFECT transitional linkage from that point. And as such...the very word "accident"...would become totally inaccurate.
Paradox...does it every time.
"...simple things to confound the wise" (Good Book). Bottom line.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:00 pm to genuineLSUtiger
And that's fine if it works for you, I've just never seen anything that would objectively lead me to believe there is anything more to existence than the physical universe.
Any God who wanted his presence known would do so in a far more direct manner than the suspiciously coy manner which he supposedly does in organized religions, and without a higher being I find no compelling reason to think there is "life force" or a spirit or anything like that.
The only intellectually consistent and possible scenario (aside from there being no God/spiritual state of existence) is a higher being who is indifferent to the plight of humans and sits idly by for whatever reason.
Any God who wanted his presence known would do so in a far more direct manner than the suspiciously coy manner which he supposedly does in organized religions, and without a higher being I find no compelling reason to think there is "life force" or a spirit or anything like that.
The only intellectually consistent and possible scenario (aside from there being no God/spiritual state of existence) is a higher being who is indifferent to the plight of humans and sits idly by for whatever reason.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:02 pm to RCDfan1950
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Totally agree, RK. The fascinating thing, is that Science having proved that the whole Perceived Universe, exists in a warp of Relative Time. So, if one were to look back from the infinite future...there would be a PERFECT transitional linkage from that point. And as such...the very word "accident"...would become totally inaccurate.
Paradox...does it every time. "...simple things to confound the wise" (Good Book).
Bottom line.
k
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:05 pm to goatmilker
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Well that clears a lot of big things right up!
It's pretty straightforward, other creatures do not possess a concept of spirituality or evolution for the simple reason that they cannot.
Once sentient consciousness arises (the realization that "I think, therefore I am") the natural curiosity present in all higher order creatures naturally has to grow to accommodate the increased awareness of existence. A sentient mind demands answers about it's origins and existence, and religion/spirituality provides that.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Any God who wanted his presence known would do so in a far more direct manner than the suspiciously coy manner which he supposedly does
That you can speak so...easily for the Gods who billions if not trillions ad infinitum in age is quite fascinating to me.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:14 pm to goatmilker
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That you can speak so...easily for the Gods who billions if not trillions ad infinitum in age is quite fascinating to me.
Made in his image, remember?
I should expect a mind created by a God who wants his creation to know him would be capable of sufficiently understanding him inherently apart from the teachings of other humans. Not in a generic, "there is a God because the sunset is pretty" way but n a specific way. The first conscious thought of every human should be "Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life".
Any deficiencies in our ability to understand God are the fault of the creator, not the creation. Religion is inherently illogical, illustrated by the fact that the field of apologetics exists. A real, omnipotent creator God would not require his creation to explain him.
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