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re: Yet another tipping thread
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:23 am to td01241
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:23 am to td01241
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I wouldn't be opposed to doing away with the current system and paying servers/bartenders w.e hourly waged deemed fair
Some places already do this. However, I guess the tipping model exists because people feel like it incentivizes better service.
However, on larger/more expensive meals the percentage doesn't always mean as much.
I know that my grandpa is an ~10% tipper. He often tips less than that on perfectly good service. My cousin and I regularly went with him to Superior Grill in Baton Rouge while we were in college. We started getting the same waiter more and more often who eventually began seating us ahead of other people on very busy Thursday nights. Even though my grandpa percentage wise was a bad tipper, the three of us were consistently drinking $50 worth of margaritas and eating $60 worth of food.
A 10% tip on that bill is still great money for not really any extra effort.
Hence, I think after the bill reaches a certain amount the percentage really begins to become moot anyway.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:24 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
frick your mother; this shite is not that difficult.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:27 am to td01241
Yeah this plus I'm assuming that servers at high end places get hired after years of experience(paying their dues) vs people waiting tables at WaHo to get through college.
Kind of like bartenders...nobody starts out at the clubs charging 12 bucks for a drink and serving 100 people an hour. Those people probably started working noon shifts at the local dive.
Or they're really hot and fricking the manager
Kind of like bartenders...nobody starts out at the clubs charging 12 bucks for a drink and serving 100 people an hour. Those people probably started working noon shifts at the local dive.
Or they're really hot and fricking the manager
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 12:28 am
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:27 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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20% for lunch at the diner is going to be a whole lot different than 20% at dinner in an up-scale. Yet almost the same amount of effort goes into serving you at both.
It really depends on the place. As td pointed out the number of tables the servers has can cause the amount they make to average out. However, some of the more upscale places also don't just allow college kids to work as waiters. They actually get very experienced career type waiters that inevitably demand more money because they go beyond just knowing the menu.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:28 am to Bmath
Indeed, and I see your point. You can make 15 dollars off your grandpa, who is a "bad" tipper, just from the size of the bill. Or you could make 10 dollars off a couple who has a 50$ bill and are deemed good tippers.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:30 am to tween the hedges
Yeah the first place I bar tended at was a bowling alley and eventually I ended up at a 3 star Village Tavern in Alpharetta. You can probably guess which one I made more money at but it also demanded a lot more menu/alcohol knowledge.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 12:31 am
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:31 am to Henry Jones Jr
Sonic kids serve good Tater Tots at great risk to their health from rollerskate injury.
They deserve $1.00 - $2,00 tip.
Pay it forward bro. But for the grace of God, you may be roller skating them rough asphalt lots some day.
They deserve $1.00 - $2,00 tip.
Pay it forward bro. But for the grace of God, you may be roller skating them rough asphalt lots some day.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:36 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
The real debate here is whether you disciplined your wife publicly or privately for second guessing how you spend yall's money.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:37 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Let's now assume we changed our entrée to the $35 fillet and $50 porterhouse with everything else the same. Now we are looking at $155 with a 20% tip of $31. In this instance, what more/extra has the server done for the second meal that he didn't do for the first to justify the extra $10 in tip?
I'm sure it's been mentioned but, at some places the server has to tip out the rest of the staff (busers, kitchen, bartender) a percentage of their total sales.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:38 am to td01241
Pretty much, I was royally confused for the longest time until I figured that out. I knew that he was notoriously bad at tipping to the point where family members were often slipping bills under their plates to help out. He's even been called out about it at various family gatherings.
Also, because we were getting multiple margaritas, it was actually less effort for him compared to us drinking a coke because he just had to go pick it up at the bar as opposed to getting our glass and bringing it back filled many more times. Perhaps he had to cut the bar in on his tips, but even then I think he was making off pretty well.
Also, because we were getting multiple margaritas, it was actually less effort for him compared to us drinking a coke because he just had to go pick it up at the bar as opposed to getting our glass and bringing it back filled many more times. Perhaps he had to cut the bar in on his tips, but even then I think he was making off pretty well.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:40 am to The Third Leg
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frick your mother; this shite is not that difficult.
Thank God an e-badass showed up to set me straight. You insightful thoughts on the subject are really appreciated and I thank you for your comments. I wish you all the best in your future posts and endeavors.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:44 am to Bmath
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Even though my grandpa percentage wise was a bad tipper, the three of us were consistently drinking $50 worth of margaritas and eating $60 worth of food.
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A 10% tip on that bill is still great money for not really any extra effort
You are a straight jackass who has never worked in the service industry
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:45 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Hotel cleaning ladies-no
I've routinely leave tips for hotel maids if we left the room a wreck on the first night. Always tip after the first night and tell them you will take care of them on the final night if they take care of sheets, towels and basic cleaning. And generally attentive. Not much $3-5.
But they should always take of you.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:48 am to MeridianDog
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Sonic kids
Many, but not all, Sonic franchises operate with the same tip based pay structure as a sit down restaurant. A lot of the newer ones have a drive through, so I use that as to not feel guilty about not wanting to tip for fast food.
There are some interesting threads on the web with Sonic workers bitching about people not tipping and how they are making less than minimum wage when people don't tip. Yet none of them seem to realize that their boss is federally mandated to pay them up to minimum wage if their tips do not meet or exceed that amount.
Another reason I rarely tip at sonic is because I hardly ever carry cash. You may notice that Sonics do not have a tip line on the credit card receipt. Apparently this is not included because corporate Sonic does not want needing to tip to be implied. Therefore how can I tip if this not an option when I don't carry cash?
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:48 am to Mudge87
It really all depends on the kind of restaurant him and his grandpa are attending. Even with a low % tip it could still be more than the average table in that restaurant if their bill is that high, which is why a certain waiter always wanted it.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:55 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Let's now assume we changed our entrée to the $35 fillet and $50 porterhouse with everything else the same.
This is a good question. And I have a good answer. Because most of the time, the cook isn't going to frick up chicken and pork chop. Now, if you are paying for a $50+ steak and it's not to your specifications, then you will likely send it back (it happens more than you believe). This is a hassle for waiters because not only do they have to take another trip and avoid other customs, they have to listen to your bitching. This is my theory.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:55 am to td01241
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:57 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
20% is really the min, but it's ok. Minimum wage for waiter and waitresses hasn't gone up like it has for everyone else. Plus they usually have to tip out the bartenders and sometimes a bus person.. based on their sales, not their tips. So if you tip around 10% they are sometimes just breaking even.
Also, and this is something no one usually thinks about... TIP FOR YOUR TIME... If you go and eat and leave... tip the norm. But if you hang around for awhile chatting or are having a business meeting or the place has music, but you aren't really drinking or eating much be sure to tip for the time you spent there taking up a table that could have someone there that is tipping for that time.
Also, and this is something no one usually thinks about... TIP FOR YOUR TIME... If you go and eat and leave... tip the norm. But if you hang around for awhile chatting or are having a business meeting or the place has music, but you aren't really drinking or eating much be sure to tip for the time you spent there taking up a table that could have someone there that is tipping for that time.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:58 am to Mudge87
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You are a straight jackass who has never worked in the service industry
Dude, have you eaten at Superior Grill? Each double margarita is $10. 5 margaritas is easily $50. The fajitas are ~20 a plate, so multiply that times 2, and my grandpa rarely got food that cost more than $10.
Seriously, he could have had to work just as hard if not more if we would have all ordered cheap taco plates and soft drinks that often require multiple refills apiece.
Many people treat tipping as a straight percentage of the bill regardless of service. So should I tip him better on the nights I decided to get a coke instead because even though that coke was $2 dollars as opposed to a $10 margarita, he'll be refilling it 3-4 times instead of maybe getting a second margarita?
I'm not an arse. I just understand how math works, and how tipping on the percentage of the bill really makes little sense when you look at it that way. However, if you the server look at it as a dollar cost averaging method the server should in theory find a middle ground as he/she will have some tables with higher bills paying better tips and some patrons with lower bills that include lower tips.
The effort can be identical at the same restaurant, but because it is a percentage of food cost it doesn't always mean that each table got any different service.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:03 am to Bmath
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So should I tip him better on the nights I decided to get a coke instead because even though that coke was $2 dollars as opposed to a $10 margarita, he'll be refilling it 3-4 times instead of maybe getting a second margarita?
if you're only gonna tip 10% on margarita night, then yeah.
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