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Should scientist be forbidden from advising the EPA?

Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:38 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:38 pm
On their own research?

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H.R. 1422, which passed 229-191, would shake up the EPA’s Scientific Advisory Board, 
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the bill forbids scientific experts from participating in “advisory activities” that either directly or indirectly involve their own work. 
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this must be a joke right?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:41 pm to
I don't want insulated scientists with cozy jobs advising the EPA to oppress factories operation at small profit margins.

Scientists are notorious for wanting to regulate everything severely.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84937 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:42 pm to
It's a peer review type thing. Don't want scientist with self-fulfilling prophesies who just want to keep the grants (money) coming.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12985 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

I don't want insulated scientists with cozy jobs advising the EPA to oppress factories operation at small profit margins.

Scientists are notorious for wanting to regulate everything severely.




Only took one post. Bravo.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79032 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:47 pm to
Just replace the EPA with a hologram of Rachel Carson, we'll save a fortune.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15216 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

It's a peer review type thing.
I'm all for peer review, but they could accomplish that without prohibiting someone from advising on their own research.

The real question is who asked for the change? Did the EPA ask for it?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37242 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:48 pm to
You want impartial ppl people on that board. Scientists passing legislation based on their own studies and research is not impartial.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84937 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:50 pm to
I don't know the exact details of how this works or what exactly was changed or who asked for it.

I just saw "scientist" and "EPA" and figured that was the thinking.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:50 pm to
quote:


The real question is who asked for the change? Did the EPA ask for it?
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 5:51 pm
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15216 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:56 pm to
It looks like a pretty stupid rule. If they wanted to counter any conflict of interest concerns, they could have included their requirement to hear from the oil and coal lobbyists and left the rest alone.

None of it matters, anyway. It'll get vetoed and they don't have the votes to override the veto. They knew that when they introduced the bill and the only reason they did it was so they could create a "I know you are but what am I" argument in an attempt to gain some political capital. More gimmicks and the same old shite.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10847 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

Just replace the EPA with a hologram of Rachel Carson, we'll save a fortune.


Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15216 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:59 pm to
And the fact that the reporters don't ask the question shows they are just as shitty as the politicians they cover.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98074 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:12 pm to
Interestingly, scientists with ties to industries being regulated by the EPA aren't being restricted from the panel (they already have representation, and stand to gain more under this measure.) Apparently only points of view that may not be favorable to industry constitute a conflict of interest.

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This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 6:35 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:26 pm to
Link broken
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98074 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:35 pm to
Fixed
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