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The Miles Conundrum
Posted by SP on 11/21/14 at 12:39 pm41
I feel like you could insert Miles for Gundy, Michigan for Florida and not have to change much of the article...
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"And that’s where we are with Mike Gundy in 2014. He’s a hugely successful coach who may well stink at his job. He’s a credible candidate for the vacancy at Florida and also someone who quite possibly isn’t qualified to stay on at Oklahoma State. There have been great poets who couldn’t spell; Gundy might have managed to write a brilliant sonnet while simultaneously lopping off his hand with the pen. What’s an Oklahoma State fan supposed to hope for?
Gundy’s contract runs for (quoting from memory, but I’m pretty sure I’m right) 750 more years and around $30 billion, so he’s functionally un-fireable for the moment. He could choose to leave, or Holder and Pickens could force a shakeup while keeping him in place, or, I don’t know, they could do something totally crazy, like trust him to figure it out.8 Gundy is a funny reminder, though, of how little we often know about correlation and causation in sports. We make bullet lists like hard-eyed experts, but don’t coaches sometimes seem to function like Lisa Simpson’s magical anti-tiger rock? How does it work? It doesn’t. But you don’t see any tigers around, do you? Gundy was the first rock in OSU’s modern history to keep the tigers away for any length of time, and personally I hope he’s still on the sideline next season. One mauling is inconclusive; I need to be attacked by at least a few tigers before I learn my lesson."
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"And that’s where we are with Mike Gundy in 2014. He’s a hugely successful coach who may well stink at his job. He’s a credible candidate for the vacancy at Florida and also someone who quite possibly isn’t qualified to stay on at Oklahoma State. There have been great poets who couldn’t spell; Gundy might have managed to write a brilliant sonnet while simultaneously lopping off his hand with the pen. What’s an Oklahoma State fan supposed to hope for?
Gundy’s contract runs for (quoting from memory, but I’m pretty sure I’m right) 750 more years and around $30 billion, so he’s functionally un-fireable for the moment. He could choose to leave, or Holder and Pickens could force a shakeup while keeping him in place, or, I don’t know, they could do something totally crazy, like trust him to figure it out.8 Gundy is a funny reminder, though, of how little we often know about correlation and causation in sports. We make bullet lists like hard-eyed experts, but don’t coaches sometimes seem to function like Lisa Simpson’s magical anti-tiger rock? How does it work? It doesn’t. But you don’t see any tigers around, do you? Gundy was the first rock in OSU’s modern history to keep the tigers away for any length of time, and personally I hope he’s still on the sideline next season. One mauling is inconclusive; I need to be attacked by at least a few tigers before I learn my lesson."
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by Navytiger74 on 11/21/14 at 12:47 pm to SP
The author doesn't seem to have much of a cogent point. Fact is, Gundy is a good coach and Miles is a good coach. Both have pretty glaring flaws, but so do pretty much all of the good coaches in the game (Saban, Meyer, Kelly and maybe a couple of others being the exceptions).
This post was edited on 11/21 at 1:10 pm
--barring the whole 30 billion dollars for him to leave this year, 15 billion next year but only 3 dollars to leave in 2017--
sometimes a guy needs a fresh start. poor ole cam newton is the best quarterback here in charlotte, but some fans hate him....some love him. and he is resentful of the resources he has. he thinks he is under-appreciated and cannot get out of that rut.
however, if you put him at say, at the redskins (for argument's sake), he has the potential to go absolutely wild.
they could be, in fact, the same philosophies, but a nice change in scenery and less resentment means more attention to the position at hand.
same could be said for ____fill in the blank____coach. Just a change of scenery is what they need to re-energize. it's hard to do when you know you can put all the effort in the world in your current situation and nothing can come out of it, so moving on is the best for everyone.
sometimes a guy needs a fresh start. poor ole cam newton is the best quarterback here in charlotte, but some fans hate him....some love him. and he is resentful of the resources he has. he thinks he is under-appreciated and cannot get out of that rut.
however, if you put him at say, at the redskins (for argument's sake), he has the potential to go absolutely wild.
they could be, in fact, the same philosophies, but a nice change in scenery and less resentment means more attention to the position at hand.
same could be said for ____fill in the blank____coach. Just a change of scenery is what they need to re-energize. it's hard to do when you know you can put all the effort in the world in your current situation and nothing can come out of it, so moving on is the best for everyone.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by magildachunks on 11/21/14 at 12:58 pm to dstone12
Look man, anybody could take the talent OSU gets on a yearly basis and win 10 games.
The place recruits itself.
What they need is a coach that the game hasn't passed by. Someone who's not scared to open up the offense.
And if you don't think so, you are a delusional sunshine pumper.
The place recruits itself.
What they need is a coach that the game hasn't passed by. Someone who's not scared to open up the offense.
And if you don't think so, you are a delusional sunshine pumper.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by bradybones24 on 11/21/14 at 1:16 pm to BeeFense5
quote:
Beefense
Why did you replace my sigquote? The blind guy on plank and airline actually called me the other day and was also upset you took it down!
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by arcalades on 11/21/14 at 1:17 pm to magildachunks
quote:Well done
magildachunks
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re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by BeeFense5 on 11/21/14 at 1:22 pm to bradybones24
quote:
Why did you replace my sigquote?
I was surprised that this guy actually had an even more ridiculous quote.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by dstone12 on 11/21/14 at 1:34 pm to magildachunks
quote:
Look man, anybody could take the talent OSU gets on a yearly basis and win 10 games.
The place recruits itself.
What they need is a coach that the game hasn't passed by. Someone who's not scared to open up the offense.
And if you don't think so, you are a delusional sunshine pumper.
magilda.....mind if i interpret my post that you responded to?
i, plain as day, state that sometimes the best thing a person/program can do is change.
you can ask any of the pumpers on this board.....i aint one of em.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by magildachunks on 11/21/14 at 1:51 pm to dstone12
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magilda.....mind if i interpret my post that you responded to? i, plain as day, state that sometimes the best thing a person/program can do is change. you can ask any of the pumpers on this board.....i aint one of em.
Oh....now I get it.
My bad.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by FLObserver on 11/21/14 at 2:07 pm to magildachunks
Dude is a MAN!! he's forty!Piece Out!
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by DontCare on 11/21/14 at 3:03 pm to magildachunks
quote:
anybody could take the talent OSU gets on a yearly basis and win 10 games.
The place recruits itself.
this is a really weird claim. my impression has always been that michigan state couldn't compete recruit-wise with michigan till saban got there. and ok state couldn't compete with oklahoma recruit-wise till miles was successful there (and a huge infusion of that t boone pickens money started rolling in).
ok state gets good recruits, but i don't think of them as an elite recruiting team.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by magildachunks on 11/21/14 at 3:09 pm to DontCare
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ok state gets good recruits, but i don't think of them as an elite recruiting team.
You kidding me? They got a fence around Stillwater.
Could you imagine what somebody like Harbaugh could do there?
I could name at least ten other coaches who could walk in and have that talent at Bama levels within a year.
re: The Miles ConundrumPosted by kid345678 on 11/21/14 at 4:03 pm to magildachunks
we could be in luck.
Miles is one of the top 10 for the Michigan job with his age (61) cited as the major drawback.
I thought 60 was the new 40?
Miles is one of the top 10 for the Michigan job with his age (61) cited as the major drawback.
I thought 60 was the new 40?
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