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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:33 pm to DelU249
Alex Smith. Before Harbaugh it was a revolving door of inept coordinators. Thankfully his check-down and RB dump-off ability was preserved.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:47 pm to RemouladeSawce
Homer alert!
Tom hodson.. In New England, was thrown to the wolves as a rookie without much help and not really given time to learn. He had high expectations, but was seemingly rattled right away.
Tom hodson.. In New England, was thrown to the wolves as a rookie without much help and not really given time to learn. He had high expectations, but was seemingly rattled right away.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:21 pm to kywildcatfanone
Matt Leinart would never of been a good pro. He is a better looking Geno Torreta.
I would say Kyle Boller had alot of talent, but Billick is crap.
I would say Kyle Boller had alot of talent, but Billick is crap.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:22 pm to DelU249
Always thought Steve Beuerlein was really good out of Notre Dame and played really well for the Raiders in mop-up duty but Al Davis was intent on having the big-armed but totally shitty (Mr. Overthrow by about a mile) Jay Schroeder.
Beurerlein spent 3 years in Oakland spelling Schroeder and trying to save the day after (the guy who lost his job to Doug Williams) kept murdering his own team every Sunday.
From the late great Jim Murray on Schroeder:
Then you see him throw a football and you wonder why he isn't in the Super Bowl. He just flicks a wrist and the ball takes off in an orbital trajectory of a moonshot. His passes look like punts. They're pretty. They spiral through the air like rotating rockets, not like the crashing airplanes some passes resemble. He could probably throw a football through a brick wall or over a tall building. He's the football equivalent of a railroad gun. A football field is almost too small for him.
The only trouble is, pretty as they look, Schroeder is like the long-hitting golfer who hits it out of sight but out of the fairway, too, and whose short game is ragged. Jay has no trouble throwing the ball 75 yards. It's the little swing passes that end up in the wrong hands. If he were a golfer, he'd make the 40-footers and miss the four-footers.
If Steve could have been groomed and giving the starting job he might have had the reps to mature and grow.
He never got the reps because of the love-affair with the big-armed blonde surfing bum.
Beurerlein spent 3 years in Oakland spelling Schroeder and trying to save the day after (the guy who lost his job to Doug Williams) kept murdering his own team every Sunday.
From the late great Jim Murray on Schroeder:
Then you see him throw a football and you wonder why he isn't in the Super Bowl. He just flicks a wrist and the ball takes off in an orbital trajectory of a moonshot. His passes look like punts. They're pretty. They spiral through the air like rotating rockets, not like the crashing airplanes some passes resemble. He could probably throw a football through a brick wall or over a tall building. He's the football equivalent of a railroad gun. A football field is almost too small for him.
The only trouble is, pretty as they look, Schroeder is like the long-hitting golfer who hits it out of sight but out of the fairway, too, and whose short game is ragged. Jay has no trouble throwing the ball 75 yards. It's the little swing passes that end up in the wrong hands. If he were a golfer, he'd make the 40-footers and miss the four-footers.
If Steve could have been groomed and giving the starting job he might have had the reps to mature and grow.
He never got the reps because of the love-affair with the big-armed blonde surfing bum.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:58 pm to lsuguy13
quote:
Jamarcus
FYI,
When your "circumstance" is dumb, fat and lazy.
Changing team colors ain't going to do shite for your pro career.
Raiders were so desperate - they gave him all the opportunity.
Dude would have been run out of the league a lot earlier with any other team with his bullshite baggage.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:10 pm to sms151t
quote:
Another what could have been was Josh Freeman. Had the physical skills but he just needed someone who would guide him and teach him to be a pro.
I thought he was going to be a stud after his 2010 season.
61 % completion (up from 54 the year before)
25-6 td to int ratio
6th in the NFL in YPA and qb rating
3rd best interception percentage
Was a good scrambler too. 364 yards on 5.4 YPA
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:19 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
David klingler
I agree. Thought David got a bad choice in going to the Bengals. I could have seen him thriving in the Houston Oilers Run and Shoot offense.
I think Klingler's problem too was that his mind was more focused on preaching and becoming a minister. I am grateful for that he does that now. I knew his wife, Katie, in college.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:34 pm to DelU249
quote:
Aaron Brooks - once McCarthy left he went from stud to suck pretty quickly. Unbelievable arm
in 2003 i think it was he had an impressive TD-to-INT ratio.
they just had good balance all around for the most part. Deuce ran for over 1600 yards that year so that was a big help.
Deuce got hurt a little in 2004 and Brooks dropped off some. It wasn't like Deuce missed a lot of games but I just remember them never really putting it together until late in the year when it was really too late.
also wonder what might have been for a guy like Doug Flutie. He was in the NFL for a few years after college but it didn't work out until several years after he left the CFL.
he ended up having something to hang his hat on for his career for though so he wasn't a failure.
just kind of a feel good comeback story more than anything.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:16 pm to DelU249
Hodson
Jamarcus
Leaf
I thought JL would've made a roster
Jamarcus
Leaf
I thought JL would've made a roster
Posted on 11/22/14 at 2:28 am to The Boat
Jeff Blake.
He was having a pretty solid season, IIRC, before his injury and Brooks arriving on the scene.
He was having a pretty solid season, IIRC, before his injury and Brooks arriving on the scene.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 5:28 am to sicboy
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Rohan Davey.
Rohan's biggest problem was that he wasn't that great of a practice player. I remember he was beat out by an inept Craig Nall at LSU based upon practice play. But, whenever Rohan got in the game, there was no comparison between he and Nall. Rohan was a gamer.
I think that if someone would have worked with Rohan and given him a chance in real game situations, he could have been a good pro.
He's still my all-time favorite LSU quarterback.
Rohan's biggest problem was that he wasn't that great of a practice player. I remember he was beat out by an inept Craig Nall at LSU based upon practice play. But, whenever Rohan got in the game, there was no comparison between he and Nall. Rohan was a gamer.
I think that if someone would have worked with Rohan and given him a chance in real game situations, he could have been a good pro.
He's still my all-time favorite LSU quarterback.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 5:51 am to MMauler
I think:
Jamarcus: he needed to be in a situation where he doesn't end up eating / purple dranking out of the league.
Greg McElroy: didn't suck, but the jets coaching staff did. As did the GM.
Mark Sanchez: in any other city he wouldn't have been able to get in off the field situations that affected his on the field performance
Jamarcus: he needed to be in a situation where he doesn't end up eating / purple dranking out of the league.
Greg McElroy: didn't suck, but the jets coaching staff did. As did the GM.
Mark Sanchez: in any other city he wouldn't have been able to get in off the field situations that affected his on the field performance
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