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re: Are there any libs out there that support a secure border?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:19 am to Cole Beer
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:19 am to Cole Beer
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Conservatives must admit that a tall, long arse fence on the Mexican border (covering the entire border) is an infeasible, extremly expensive concept. If you seriously want a fence, I just shake my head.
In the grand scheme of things I'd say a fence is the cheaper alternative compared to completely overloading and bankrupting public services with an influx of DREAMers
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:19 am to Big12fan
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I suppose for this board, I'd be considered a liberal, but that's another matter. I support a secure border - question is, how is it accomplished?
Fence. And it's so damn easy.
I mean look at the infrastructure accomplishments by this country. No one can reasonably conclude a big arse fence is not easy. I mean the Egyptians built a 600 mile levee on the Nile before Christ. Excuses that we cannot build a fence are plain silly.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:22 am to GumboPot
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Fence. And it's so damn easy.
I mean look at the infrastructure accomplishments by this country. No one can reasonably conclude a big arse fence is not easy. I mean the Egyptians built a 600 mile levee on the Nile before Christ. Excuses that we cannot build a fence are plain silly.
Tunnels - see Gaza.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:24 am to mmcgrath
quote:in his defense, there is a 100% success rate of capture.
And then you failed
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:24 am to GumboPot
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a secure border
What does that even mean?
I know it sounds nice, but what needs to be done to "secure the border"? Deploy troops along all borders? Build a wall?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:24 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:35 am to goatmilker
quote:The first link is the best as I think some form of "virtual fence" is the best method. The second link wants to finish the wall but recognizes that it is only a "delay".
The ideas are out there. Just need the will.
The 3rd link is my least favorite. For some reason the author recognizes the effectiveness of K-9's in border security but complains that a lot of the dogs aren't born in the US. What a kook. I am not even sure how correct he is or if he believes that all German Shepherds and Belgian Malamars are born in Germany and Belgium.
In any case I would like to see several plans made up laying out a combination of existing fencing along with heavy "virtual fence" usage.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:56 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Exactly. That slant-eyed little midget in North Korea is not going to do anything.
See its bigots of the GOP base that are helping to cause this stalemate.
The Chamber of Commerce has given the Republican party an ultimatum on passing Immigration reform by 2016 or else (they'll find an outside candidate).
You have Business leaders /businesses who depend upon the hard-working Immigrant work force , but a Xenophobic base that the GOP fears as well.
Republican politicians prefer the status quo . They are stuck between big business & big bigots.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:20 am to a want
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Build a wall?
Yes.
Then we can implement a controlled and sane immigration policy. Not a free for all immigration policy like we currently have.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:36 am to sugar71
You're call me a bigot and a xenophobe because I was less than flattering when I referred to a murderous, evil, psychotic little tyrant. Nice.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
do we have a right to take over all of those countries that are invading ours? why don't we just annex all of those countries?
aw frick that, logic doesn't apply to liberalism
aw frick that, logic doesn't apply to liberalism
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
This guy.
I am certainly liberal by TODAYS definition of a conservative.
I am certainly liberal by TODAYS definition of a conservative.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:09 am to GumboPot
Big Sis said the border was secure.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:38 am to GumboPot
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This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 7:45 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:49 am to Cole Beer
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If you seriously want a fence, I just shake my head.
Oh look, I found you --
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:52 am to GumboPot
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Yes [to building a wall].
Then we can implement a controlled and sane immigration policy. Not a free for all immigration policy like we currently have.
Let's figure how much that would cost. It's about 2000 miles along the U.S. Mexico border. It's about 4000 miles between U.S. and Canada (screw Alaska - it's 1500 miles and not worth it).
What are we going to build it out of?
15 feet high sound right?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:59 am to a want
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Let's figure how much that would cost. It's about 2000 miles along the U.S. Mexico border. It's about 4000 miles between U.S. and Canada (screw Alaska - it's 1500 miles and not worth it).
It's been estimated to cost about $50 billion.
We would save that in the first year.
Add to the fence a STIFF penalty (jail time for repeat offenders) for employers hiring illegals and the U.S. will come out WAY ahead.
The worst part is that anyone with an IQ above single digits knows that this entire liberal charade is strictly about buying more votes with other people's money. And you scumbags won't even admit it to yourselves.
If the Republican agree to make all of these illegals citizens but with the provision that neither them nor their anchor babies will have the right to vote, you'd see how much these filthy liberal really "care" about these people.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 8:00 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:03 am to MMauler
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It's been estimated to cost about $50 billion.
That's not nearly as crazy as I thought. I'm not sure a wall is the statement we want to make, but building it seems feasable. We spent $700 billion on the stimulus.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:16 am to GumboPot
If Hispanics start voting Republican with any regularity, they will turn the border into the Impentrable Fortress.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:39 am to Cole Beer
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If you seriously want a fence, I just shake my head.
Any fence would have to be patrolled in order to be effective.
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