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re: best player in college football
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:02 pm to VABuckeye
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:02 pm to VABuckeye
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Can't disagree. Of course we'll see how that Wisconsin defense holds up when they finally face a real offense.
Assuming, of course, we get there. Here's hoping the Iowa that showed up against Minnesota is on the field saturday.
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:03 pm to hoopsgalore
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Brian Calhoun spent exactly one season at Wisconsin and was drafted in the third round in an era when RBs were still regarded as first round commodities.
Watching him run all over Auburn was a thing of beauty.
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There really is no comparison in the playing styles between players like Dayne, Ball, and Clay with players like Gordon. Gordon is a completely different blend of a running back than any of those players.
Now, this I completely agree with.
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Now, I don't think this is a thread to be drooling over the pro prospects, but I do think Gordon is the best player in college football. Still confused as to why the OP didn't include Gordon as a player that can change a game. If there is one player that can change a game, it's Gordon. There is a reason Gordon leads the nation in touchdowns (and runs) of 40+ yards and there is a reason Gordon currently holds the NCAA record in yards/carry.
Of course the two argument are very different, but I was just giving my take on it. I think Gordon is really impressive, but I don't think he's the best player in college football. He's close, though, which is praise enough, imo.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:06 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I work in private equity I have all the approval I need to
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:07 pm to Statsattack
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Jalen will be the better pro Gordon might not even be a first round pick
Gordon is Jamaal Charles 2.0. He's most certainly going in the first round.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:08 pm to Statsattack
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I work in private equity I have all the approval I need to
Need someone to help you snort all that blow, brah?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:12 pm to hoopsgalore
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You're correct in saying that Gordon isn't Wisconsin's first or last running back. The fact you say he is a product of their system tells me you have not watched much of Gordon, if at all.
It is quite clear to everyone that has watched Wisconsin over the years that he is a completely different breed of a running back than his predecessors.
Gordon is an absolute game breaker with the ability to change the game in a single touch. He has a blend of size (6'1" 213), speed, and power that makes him and Gurley two RBs that are likely to break the streak of no running backs selected in the first round. In an era that the running back position has become a 'plug 'n play,' it is quite incredible.
blah blah blah. All I heard was plug n play. Thats correct. Running backs aren't important.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:13 pm to volfan30
I will get blasted for this
Barnett will be a top 10 pick in two years. I know Hurd was the "most improtant " signee for you guys last year but Barnett is why UT will be in late 90's form sooner than later
Barnett will be a top 10 pick in two years. I know Hurd was the "most improtant " signee for you guys last year but Barnett is why UT will be in late 90's form sooner than later
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:16 pm to TheSexecutioner
Important enough that Gurley and Gordon will both be first round picks.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:17 pm to hoopsgalore
Tevin Coleman
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:17 pm to Statsattack
Don't get me started on Barry Alverez he single handily ruined your wrestling program because of how cheap he is.
Running backs do not have the same value as they did ten years ago and that's a fact. Why would I value someone in a position that isn't really valued.
For ex Gordon is a better running back than Andre Ellington was in college. But Ellingtons game translates to the pros better and he is one of the main horses being a late round pick.
Running backs do not have the same value as they did ten years ago and that's a fact. Why would I value someone in a position that isn't really valued.
For ex Gordon is a better running back than Andre Ellington was in college. But Ellingtons game translates to the pros better and he is one of the main horses being a late round pick.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:23 pm to hoopsgalore
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Important enough that Gurley and Gordon will both be first round picks.
Maybe. And how many other positions will be picked before them? I looked up the first mock draft I saw. Positions drafted before RB:
QB
DE
DT
OLB
OT
G
WR(2)
S
CB(2)
And this is a rare year. So yeah, they aren't important. Not much value over replacement at all.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:26 pm to Statsattack
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Running backs do not have the same value as they did ten years ago and that's a fact. Why would I value someone in a position that isn't really valued.
You are correct that it doesn't have the same value as it does ten years ago. He is a first round pick, though. Besides, your question asked who the best player in college football was. I believe it is Melvin Gordon. In your list of game-changers, you did not list Gordon, despite every statistic pointing to the contrary. Quit funny, actually.
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For ex Gordon is a better running back than Andre Ellington was in college. But Ellingtons game translates to the pros better and he is one of the main horses being a late round pick.
Why does Ellington's game transfer to the NFL better?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:30 pm to TheSexecutioner
Not sure what other positions have to do with anything. I was responding to a poster denouncing Melvin Gordon because of the 'system' he plays in.
No one ever claimed that RBs are a highly-valued position, but it should speak volumes just how good players like Gordon and Gurley are if they can break this mold of RBs not being drafted in the first round. Both have potential to be absolute stars in the NFL.
No one ever claimed that RBs are a highly-valued position, but it should speak volumes just how good players like Gordon and Gurley are if they can break this mold of RBs not being drafted in the first round. Both have potential to be absolute stars in the NFL.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:36 pm to hoopsgalore
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Not sure what other positions have to do with anything. I was responding to a poster denouncing Melvin Gordon because of the 'system' he plays in.
No one ever claimed that RBs are a highly-valued position, but it should speak volumes just how good players like Gordon and Gurley are if they can break this mold of RBs not being drafted in the first round. Both have potential to be absolute stars in the NFL.
No. What speaks volumes is Georgias backup running back being just as good as Gurley. The amount of times two good backs have just coincidently been on the same team is hilarious. Ronnie Brown and Cadilac. McFadden and Felix Jones. Reggie Bush and Lendale White. Anybody for LSU or Alabama in the last 10 years. Running backs are a system position. Take a random MAC starting running back, put him behind the best offensive line in the best system in the country and you won't notice a huge difference.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:38 pm to TheSexecutioner
Noted. Though I don't think a random MAC running back would be nearly as good as a player like Gordon or Gurley behind their offensive lines.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:38 pm to hoopsgalore
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Both have potential to be absolute stars in the NFL.
As does any running back who gets a chance to carry a ball. Arian Foster was the biggest star playing for a while and he wasn't even drafted. And that really isn't out of the ordinary. How many other positions can you say that for?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:40 pm to TheSexecutioner
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As does any running back who gets a chance to carry a ball. Arian Foster was the biggest star playing for a while and he wasn't even drafted. And that really isn't out of the ordinary. How many other positions can you say that for?
Arian Foster isn't really a good choice, though. He was one of the top prospects in high school and just played for a shitty Tenn team, same with Bryce Brown.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:40 pm to Statsattack
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Jalen will be the better pro Gordon might not even be a first round pick
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:40 pm to Statsattack
Was Gurley now its Gordon
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:41 pm to hoopsgalore
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Noted. Though I don't think a random MAC running back would be nearly as good as a player like Gordon or Gurley behind their offensive lines.
I agree that there would be some difference. Especially on Gordon. I think he's good. I doubt he's the best running back in college football is what I'm saying. It would just be too coincidental if the best back happened to play for the team with the best running system(which is what gets back recognition).
Its just the matter of taking the field vs one player. I seriously doubt Gordon is better than every single other back who doesn't get a chance to run behind the best offensive line. Plus, didn't Gordon fumble twice? Does he fumble a lot? In a position so replaceable, not fumbling seems to me like it would be the number 1 attribute to have. Thats why, contrary to most people, I think Murray is having a poor year for the Cowboys.
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