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re: One step closer to tying homosexuality to the human genome

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Posted by ctiger69
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Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:47 pm to
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All three abnormal sexually desires and behaviors. See the similarities?



1) I'll spend no more time after this post discussing a genetic science concept with...well...you


2) I asked if you saw a fundamental difference,,,you respond with perfunctory similarities.


yeeesh
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:49 pm to
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S.E.C. Crazy


Although there has been no doubt you are a cocksucker, I think you protest too much. I think you literally are a cocksucker. You represent your ignorant state well.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:49 pm to
I think what
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onmymedicalgrind
is trying to say is want is us to say that for example on chromosome 14 gene #148 an A has been changed to a T. However if he reads my second link he will see that they this is as close as research have gotten it. He is changing his argument to nit pick the actually nucleotide #.

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In the p53 gene of lung cancer, five major Gright arrowT mutational sites (in codons 157, 158, 245, 248, and 273) consist of methylated CpGs (Yoon et al., 2001).
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:50 pm to
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1) I'll spend no more time after this post discussing a genetic science concept with...well...you

I really want him to inform us all about this thing he just recently discovered and yet to publish: the Down Syndrome gene
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:50 pm to
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If a gay gene is truly is identified it does NOT make homosexuslity normal.


No, but is does make it...wait for it...genetic.

And homosexuality isn't normal regardless, because the norm is defined by the majority. The majority of people are not gay, regardless of the reasons for homosexuality existing. Being abnormal doesn't make it immoral however, any more so than being born with eleven toes is immoral.

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If a pedophile gene is identified will this make being a pedophile normal?


No, but pedophilia would be both abnormal and immoral because it involves exploitation of a non-consenting individual lacking the capacity for sexual decision making.

You are simply misusing the term "normal". What you're trying to argue is morality, not normalcy.

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What about a beastility gene?


Can the animal legally consent?

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Do people with down syndrome really care that a down syndrome gene has been found?


Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:51 pm to
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Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:54 pm to
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It was a simple comparison "if" being the key. You can name if a gene if found for any mental illness, sexually abnoramality.



You edited in an "if." I quoted your original post before you did so, so nice try.

The funny thing is that even if you said "if" originally, you would still be 100% wrong. The genetic basis behind Down Syndrome was elucidated decades agoe. Its not secret. And it has nothing to do with a "Down Syndrome" gene.

Do you even trisomy bro?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:54 pm to
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Would you consider this to be more a possibility of being a birth defect? Not meaning that in a condemning way but such as Down syndrome. Something that just happens to some babies.


No, because down syndrome is a direct genetic condition. You have three copies the chromosome 21, you have down's syndrome. Period. They have down's syndrome from the moment they are born.

All infants are asexual, so nobody is "born" gay, straight, bi, etc. It is clearly a combination of genetics (as evidenced by years of research and very convincing twin studies) and environment.

Now, the question of whether or not it is immoral cannot be answered by science. I don't believe that anything is inherently immoral because I see no evidence for such a thing, so I find the idea that homosexuality is immoral completely foreign.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:55 pm to
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Roger Klarvin



Dude gave away with the DS comment he's not ready for big boy science talk. Hell, he's not ready for middle school science talk.
Posted by LSU6969
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:56 pm to
Onmymedicalgrind, could you give me your thoughts on a question I posted above?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:57 pm to
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Dude gave away with the DS comment he's not ready for big boy science talk. Hell, he's not ready for middle school science talk.



I have a 2000 year old book! All the science I NEED to tell my gay is bad
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:58 pm to
Which question?
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:00 pm to
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All the science I NEED to tell my gay is bad


You caught teh ghey? I didn't know it was contagious

Even more reason to avoid the lower Quarter!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:01 pm to
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This is false.


LINK

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Of the relatives whose sexual orientation could be rated, 52% (29/56) of monozygotic cotwins, 22% (12/54) of dizygotic cotwins, and 11% (6/57) of adoptive brothers were homosexual. Heritabilities were substantial under a wide range of assumptions about the population base rate of homosexuality and ascertainment bias.


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The flawed thinking behind a genetic test for sexual orientation is clear from studies of twins, which show that the identical twin of a gay man, who carries an exact replica of his brother's DNA, is more likely to be straight than gay. That means even a perfect genetic test that picked up every gene linked to sexual orientation would still be less effective than flipping a coin"


Oh. My. God.

Posted by LSU6969
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:01 pm to
That being gay could be a birth defect such as down syndrome?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:02 pm to
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You caught teh ghey? I didn't know it was contagious






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