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re: #SECBias is the easiest thing to debunk, ever
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:18 pm to Geauxgurt
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:18 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
Would be hilarious if MSU somehow squeaks in a knocks off SEC Champion Bama in the playoffs.
IMO the bigger LOLZ would be if Mississippi makes the playoffs after Bama loses to Georgia or Missouri in the SECCG.
MSU sits and home and gets to coast into the playoffs. Not fair at all.
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:19 pm to Baloo
quote:Agreed.
In a 4 team playoff, no. I don't. Win your f'n conference.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:19 pm to Baloo
quote:
In a 4 team playoff, no. I don't. Win your f'n conference. Which hurts me, because I want State to win the national title. But they had a shot, and they blew it. And I honestly don't believe the SEC is so far and away superior that it deserves two teams in a four team playoff.
I don't even think you need to win your conference CG, you just need to get there.
I think Bama would be more deserving of Mississippi State even if they lose in the CCG.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:21 pm to wm72
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However, Miss St this year will still have a better "resume" than at least the 4th team in if they win out and don't make it.
Ehh, maybe. Miss. St. has their best wins over Auburn Ole Miss, (assuming they win) and LSU. If MSU is in danger of missing out, that means Bama beat Auburn, so Auburn has 4 losses, as does LSU. Ole Miss would have 3 losses. I've heard a lot of radio stations saying that these wins aren't carrying the same weight they were before. Those wins aren't much better on paper than OSU's would be over a 2 loss Michigan State and a 3 loss Wisconsin
It is not my job to determine if Auburn would be top 5 in the country if they played in the ACC, and should therefore count as much as a win over a top 10 team no matter how many losses they have in the SEC
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:21 pm to Baloo
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In a 4 team playoff, no. I don't. Win your f'n conference.
This is so bogus. The goal is to get the best 4 teams in the playoff, not the best 4 conference winners
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:23 pm to ballscaster
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#SECBias is the easiest thing to debunk, ever
SECBias is the easiest thing to prove ever!!!!!!!!!
It's called $ dipshite...and business partners in collusion to make more money.
Are you that stupid? Businesses have been in collusion with sports way back in the 1920's...now the major college football player...ESPN...the head honcho - is in cahoots with the SEC.
SEC does good, they profit.
This has been written about so much the last few years. It's a sham.
And nobody in the SEC wants to acknowledge it...but instead spout hate toward ESPN.
What a joke, you are hating your Daddy - idiots. Your Daddy that makes it all possible for you to be promoted and pushed on the public to always get a title shot...it's a sham...has been for 5-10 years. Just ask Okie State...and re-watch the comments of all the ESPN TV analysts during that game...as they were destroying Oklahoma - it was like Fox News...all they spouted was the corporate talking points to influence voters.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:24 pm to TreyAnastasio
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This is so bogus. The goal is to get the best 4 teams in the playoff, not the best 4 conference winners
I don't think any conference should get more than one team.
Those teams already had a playoff during the season.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:26 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Because we already have the result of the two matching up. Alabama had game control all over Mississippi State.
We also have the result of Ohio State vs Va Tech. Va Tech sucks arse and Ohio State lost to them.
Why would we need to see OSU matchup with a team in the playoffs?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:28 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:And with the way the committee system is built, there is no definitive way to do that. They need to move to 8 teams pronto.
This is so bogus. The goal is to get the best 4 teams in the playoff, not the best 4 conference winners
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:28 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:
This is so bogus. The goal is to get the best 4 teams in the playoff, not the best 4 conference winners
The bogus part is that there are people on this board who think they can decide who the best 4 teams are just from watching games.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:28 pm to Buckeye06
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Ehh, maybe. Miss. St. has their best wins over Auburn Ole Miss, (assuming they win) and LSU. If MSU is in danger of missing out, that means Bama beat Auburn, so Auburn has 4 losses, as does LSU. Ole Miss would have 3 losses. I've heard a lot of radio stations saying that these wins aren't carrying the same weight they were before. Those wins aren't much better on paper than OSU's would be over a 2 loss Michigan State and a 3 loss Wisconsin
It is not my job to determine if Auburn would be top 5 in the country if they played in the ACC, and should therefore count as much as a win over a top 10 team no matter how many losses they have in the SEC
I don't disagree but that would mean that Miss St would have:
Ole Miss AWAY
LSU AWAY
Auburn Home
Ohio St would have:
Michigan St AWAY
Wisconsin Nuetral
That's three quality wins versus two before getting into the difference in losing to Alabama Away and Virginia Tech at home.
I don't disagree about saying that Miss St's wins are similar in quality to Ohio St but they are certainly not lesser since, say, LSU beat Wisconsin neutral and Auburn beat Kansas St away.
I'm not considering Minnesota at all unless they actually beat someone as their resume isn't better than Arkansas' to this point.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
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We also have the result of Ohio State vs Va Tech. Va Tech sucks arse and Ohio State lost to them.
Why would we need to see OSU matchup with a team in the playoffs?
Your real name is Phyllis, isn't it?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:30 pm to wm72
quote:
Ole Miss AWAY
LSU AWAY
Auburn Home
These three teams will have 11 losses combined and they are quality wins?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:33 pm to wm72
quote:
wm72
I debated putting LSU on there since who knows what they will finish at myself. If they lose again (very possible) they aren't a quality win this year likely
Edit: I thought LSU had more than 1 game left, but regardless they may not finish top 25 winning or losing that game so it's up for debate still
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:34 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
The bogus part is that there are people on this board who think they can decide who the best 4 teams are just from watching games.
I can tell you that you arent part of the top 4
But I agree. We should go back to the BCS to figure out the top 4.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:34 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
We also have the result of Ohio State vs Va Tech. Va Tech sucks arse and Ohio State lost to them.
Why would we need to see OSU matchup with a team in the playoffs?
I'm not excusing an Ohio State loss to Va Tech, it was a bad loss.
Ohio State was in striking distance with the ball down one score with 1 minute to play. They threw a pick 6. There are a bunch more excuses: 2nd youngest offensive line in the country, freshman QB starting for an injured 2 time Big Ten player of the Year, bear fron that our Oline had never heard of let alone seen, etc.
That's all those are, excuses.
Ohio State should have won all their games if they wanted to leave no doubt, but they didn't.
Currently, they are trending as one of the top 4 teams in the country. Mississippi State is not. Neither is Florida State.
The funniest thing about this all, is that if not for one call(which easily couldn't have been called), Florida State is out behind maybe even two loss Mississippi. That's how narrow the line is between these games.
It's tough to get the best four teams, but I think that if we want to value all the games and performance of all the teams, then winning your division is not too much to ask.
That's just my humble opinion.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:35 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Not enough information given to answer.
Do you think that a team that doesn't win it's division deserves a shot at a playoff?
If the season ended today, Mississippi State will have earned its playoff spot.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:36 pm to fleaux
quote:This is irrelevant. Top four, in.
Why wouldn't it, if the team it lost to is in the same division?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:36 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Because they both earned their way into the top 4.
Why would we need to see that again?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:36 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Alabama never crossed the LSU 15.
But that game 9-6 game was different than the MSU- Bama game because LSU never had full control of the game like Bama did.
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