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re: Computer Poll Avg. Strength of Schedule for CFP's Top 7; Baylor Odd Man Out

Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:27 pm to
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To a point I agree, but Michigan doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt (not saying LSU and Michigan are equal) because Michigan has had top 5-10 classes the past 3 or 4.

When you start playing that card, it gets a bit more murky.

The bottom line, Ohio State should have beaten Va Tech and didn't. If they get left out, it will suck but it is what it is.



I think you have to have "stacked roster" + at least a number of actual good on-the-field performances.


I would easily consider Michigan exactly the same as LSU or Auburn if they were simply having an up and down season with a couple of upset losses but, like Auburn and LSU, also had a couple of marquee type wins.

This season, I'm not sure they even quite stack up to Florida, to mention another team overflowing with 4*+ recruits, as a resume builder.


As much as I've defended saying earlier that Miss St has a bit stronger resume in terms of wins and losses I'd personally still be tempted to bump Ohio St over them as conference champions. But, given the Va Tech loss, I wouldn't think it's unjust in the least either way.

This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:31 pm to
I agree and I think with all things being similar, I would want Ohio State in for diversity's sake to get a true swath of college football.

Obviously that's really biased.


But as Baloo astutely pointed out before, there are very few data points that shows the SEC above and beyond all the other conferences that they deserve two representative.

It'll be interesting how it all shakes out.

I predict at least 2 of the top 7 lose before it's all said and done. Ohio State being one of the most likely since they will probably play against Wisconsin who is rolling right now.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:33 pm to
Way to dodge msu's in-conference schedule. Osu would be lucky to go .500 in the sec west.

But since your conference sucks... And you lost to a shitty acc school, all you have left is to try to compare OOC schedules.

You can say whatever you want about fsu's conference being shitty. I just hope you realize that you are only diminishing your own position... Since you fricking lost to an acc school.
What a clown.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:35 pm to
You seem angry.

I'm sorry.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:36 pm to
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You seem angry


Jameis said something stupid again today.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Jameis said something stupid again today.


It was something like, "this is what it looks like to beat an SEC team for a Championship."
But you OSU fans wouldn't know anything about that. All you do is lose and whine about OOC schedules.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:51 pm to
He skrong.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33370 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:52 pm to
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I hate you


I don't know why I found this so hilarious but dang I'm rolling over here.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:52 pm to
I take it back, you are mad, you don't seem sad.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83396 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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If Ohio State played a joke of a OOC schedule, they would be undefeated and we wouldn't be having this conversation.


:mindblown:


Ohio State lost to Va Tech. What the shite are you talking about?!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:54 pm to
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Ohio State (#6 FPS) - 42
Florida State (# 3 FPS) - 49


LOL
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:55 pm to
What's the LOL?
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:59 pm to
He's still salty from the nd loss.

Sos difference isn't very big between fsu and osu.
The big difference is in the loss column.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 5:24 pm to
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But as Baloo astutely pointed out before, there are very few data points that shows the SEC above and beyond all the other conferences that they deserve two representative


Yeah, that will pretty much always be the case since it's probably better than ever in terms of most teams at least playing one big OOC game a season.

Unfortunately, there's nothing to do but go on the little data there actually is.


I don't think that the committee should really be thinking in terms of "does the SEC deserve two teams" as much as just looking at the specific schedule of the SEC teams in discussion.

Mainly, how many difficult wins do they have, which is to say how many quality wins do the teams they beat or lost to have?


At that point, the debate surrounding a conference getting two representatives simply turns on how much a conference championship counts?

It will interesting to see.

I can see both sides in that a team like Miss St would perhaps be out simply by having had the misfortune of playing Alabama at home but at the same time including them diminishes the "national" appeal of the national championship playoff when there are other teams with very similar credentials.


This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:13 pm to
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If OSU played either of their in-conference schedules, they'd be revealed as the big pile of dog shite that they are.
Osu getting beat by a crappy Indiana team. Osu totally deserves to be in the playoffs. Lol
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:16 pm to
I want to see the chaos created by OSU falling to Indiana, Baylor dropping to KSU, and TCU falling to Texas.
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