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Anyone else's duck lease turn bad lately?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:34 pm
My family has held our duck lease for 40 years now. We are South of Morgan City at the intersection of Bayou Penchant and Bayou Chene. For a solid 25+ years this lease was dynamite. I literally couldn't imagine better hunting. Ducks of all makes & model as well as a big specklebelly goose population. Growing up, we'd go to places in West LA and Texas as guests and often leave saying among ourselves how much better our hunting was. Game wardens would check us and remark about how we were sitting on a gold mine type lease.
Then about 10-12 years ago things started to slow down. Not just our lease, but the whole area. Limits became fewer, ducks became less and less. Saturday's shoot might be good, but Sunday was the dead sea. I noticed far less ducks in our areas that we never hunted (refuge/sanctuary areas of our lease and surrounding sections). Last year was slow, but there were a few decent shoots. But some weekends were just plain strike outs. But there were at least some ducks on the lease.
So far this year I've seen all of 10 ducks on the lease and those were way far off in the distance on the youth weekend. Opening weekend my dad and brother didn't even see a duck. Not a duck! Anywhere! They said they heard some shooting, but nowhere close. They didn't hear much from Avoca Island club either from what they could tell.
So I ask... what the heck has happened to make ducks literally not even come to an area that was once a haven for ducks? We have good water and fairly open ponds, fresh water/building healthy marsh. We have great natural feed. All the same vegitation we've had for years (aquatic grasses, japanese millet, etc). So how does our marsh literally not recieve 1 duck by Novemeber? Heck, we don't even have resident birds anymore.
I know flyways have changed due to management and agriculture stuff. But alot of ducks are still coming down. You'd think some would find a happy home in such a once thriving spot.
My only theory is predators... The bald eagle community has exploded in our area. The damn things are everywhere. But could that keep the ducks out completely?
Anyone have any thoughts or see this happen elsewhere? Anyone hunt in neighboring sections that may be seeing the same thing? Any discussion would be appreciated.
Then about 10-12 years ago things started to slow down. Not just our lease, but the whole area. Limits became fewer, ducks became less and less. Saturday's shoot might be good, but Sunday was the dead sea. I noticed far less ducks in our areas that we never hunted (refuge/sanctuary areas of our lease and surrounding sections). Last year was slow, but there were a few decent shoots. But some weekends were just plain strike outs. But there were at least some ducks on the lease.
So far this year I've seen all of 10 ducks on the lease and those were way far off in the distance on the youth weekend. Opening weekend my dad and brother didn't even see a duck. Not a duck! Anywhere! They said they heard some shooting, but nowhere close. They didn't hear much from Avoca Island club either from what they could tell.
So I ask... what the heck has happened to make ducks literally not even come to an area that was once a haven for ducks? We have good water and fairly open ponds, fresh water/building healthy marsh. We have great natural feed. All the same vegitation we've had for years (aquatic grasses, japanese millet, etc). So how does our marsh literally not recieve 1 duck by Novemeber? Heck, we don't even have resident birds anymore.
I know flyways have changed due to management and agriculture stuff. But alot of ducks are still coming down. You'd think some would find a happy home in such a once thriving spot.
My only theory is predators... The bald eagle community has exploded in our area. The damn things are everywhere. But could that keep the ducks out completely?
Anyone have any thoughts or see this happen elsewhere? Anyone hunt in neighboring sections that may be seeing the same thing? Any discussion would be appreciated.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:36 pm to RingLeader
Flyway is constantly changing
Eta: and guys like FatNeck scare off all the birds
Eta: and guys like FatNeck scare off all the birds
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:37 pm to RingLeader
No-till farming and the nets.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:08 pm to RingLeader
My farm in Arkansas has been a fricking comedy club the past few years.
The timber that I hunt on the White and Cache Rivers has been nearly the same.
I remember when I was younger and it was guaranteed limits in 30 minutes at the farm, picking nothing but green from the timber, etc.
Times are changing, practices both manmade and natural are changing. I have accepted it and just go out there and hang out now, if I kill ducks its a bonus.
The timber that I hunt on the White and Cache Rivers has been nearly the same.
I remember when I was younger and it was guaranteed limits in 30 minutes at the farm, picking nothing but green from the timber, etc.
Times are changing, practices both manmade and natural are changing. I have accepted it and just go out there and hang out now, if I kill ducks its a bonus.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:17 pm to Polar Pop
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The timber that I hunt on the White and Cache Rivers has been nearly the same
You close to Des Ark?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:20 pm to RingLeader
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Then about 10-12 years ago things started to slow down. Not just our lease, but the whole area. Limits became fewer, ducks became less and less.
I think this describes every duck hole in the state.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:22 pm to RingLeader
Flyways change. Time to drop the lease and step on up to deer hunting with the big boys.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:37 pm to TigerDeacon
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I think this describes every duck hole in the state.
This.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:37 pm to PT24-7
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You close to Des Ark?
Yep, my spot is in Clarendon. Just about 35-40 minutes away.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:43 pm to RingLeader
7 years ago they cut a bunch of trees down around our bean field . I was pissed cause it always held doves . Immediately the duck hunting in our pit improved. We kill twice as many ducks then previously .
Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:08 pm to RingLeader
I hate to say it, but take up deer hunting if you are able to. Deer don't migrate I did both for years and finally gave into the all illusive whitetail. I will never look back.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:33 pm to TigerDeacon
no kidding the late 90's and early 2000's were hot for us, things are getting a little better now, but its still no where near what it was.... I deer hunt a lot more now
Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:44 pm to misterc
I don't hold a lease but I believe the the duck hunting has been on a steady decline for many a year. This is also the general consensus of multiple friends with leases in and around south east Lousiana i.e. Point a La Hache, Lake Pontchatrain & close vicinity, Delacroix, and Pecan Island.
I have a couple wacky theories, but I will not state them in this thread.
I have a couple wacky theories, but I will not state them in this thread.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 9:19 pm to Polar Pop
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Anyone else's duck lease turn bad lately? quote: You close to Des Ark? Yep, my spot is in Clarendon. Just about 35-40 minutes away.
Ahh, my old stomping ground. Used to hunt from just south of Des Ark, up to Hurricane, over as far as Fair Oaks on 64 and south through cotton plant/brinkley.
Love that area
Posted on 11/18/14 at 9:26 pm to RingLeader
Also, about 10-12 years ago ducking hunting became the "cool" thing to do. Sun-glass wearing, face-painting clowns. You know the type. The amount of hunters, especially the amateur sky busters, increased big time. Add the that the Duck Dynasty effect you have a large influx of new (read: shitty) hunters for roughly the same number of birds.
Hopefully a few down years will thin out some of the newbs
Hopefully a few down years will thin out some of the newbs
Posted on 11/18/14 at 9:33 pm to fillmoregandt
I've always preferred deer hunting. I do that more than the ducks... too damned much work for me, and my dad and my brother fight constantly so it's nice to go to my deer camp and get away from them.
I just curious what happened to the ducks. People are still seeing plenty of ducks. I'm just amazed the our marsh has no 1 freakin duck in mid November.
I just curious what happened to the ducks. People are still seeing plenty of ducks. I'm just amazed the our marsh has no 1 freakin duck in mid November.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 9:35 pm to RingLeader
Rode around the last three days, didn't see a single duck.
Not a one.
Gonna be a long opening day.
Eta southeast LA.
Not a one.
Gonna be a long opening day.
Eta southeast LA.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:08 pm to TigerDeacon
quote:
Then about 10-12 years ago things started to slow down. Not just our lease, but the whole area. Limits became fewer, ducks became less and less.
quote:
I think this describes every duck hole in the state.
truth...
Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:44 pm to Spankum
Hurricanes whipped out the feed many years in a row on coast. Killed the rice fields below Hwy 14. birds fly down find no food they turn around. Becomes engrained that the flight isnt worth the effort. Surface drives cutting trails to little sanctuaries they used to rest in unmolested. I think it was the 01-02 season I saw a huge drop off in birds. So much so that I started chasing deer. Post Katrina it started getting better, but last year was terrible. Best our ponds looked in a decade and after the first week we struggled. We get 8k or so ringnecks annually on lease, but I don't count them as ducks. But aside from the seismic work going on around the lease, the season looks very promising.
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