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re: Why are the Brits so much better at rock music than Americans?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:54 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:54 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
quote:
Fontainebleau Dr.
As impressive as this list is, most of the bands listed were heavily influenced by their British predecessors. I would put up the Beatles, Rolling Stones & Kinks against any combo of American bands.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:55 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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Florida Georgia Line
this is not helping
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:59 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
My son and I had this conversation the other day. Who would we consider for US bands?
REM?
Tom Petty?
Eagles?
vs.
Beatles
Stones
Led
U2
The Who
Radiohead
We just don't have any American bands that reach those heights.
We are fairly prolific with individual artists with their bands, but as far as groups, we are pretty lacking.
REM?
Tom Petty?
Eagles?
vs.
Beatles
Stones
Led
U2
The Who
Radiohead
We just don't have any American bands that reach those heights.
We are fairly prolific with individual artists with their bands, but as far as groups, we are pretty lacking.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:03 pm to OldTigahFot
Well the British dudes were all influenced by their American blues and R&B predecessors. We can't have it both ways.
I look at both lists objectively, and I think the cream of the crop of both lists definitely weighs in the favor of the British.
On the flip side, I think you see a little more innovation on the American list. And I think the middle and bottom of the American list carries a little more clout than the middle and bottom of the British list. I think the British list kind of gets a little obscure at the very bottom, when looking at the history of rock and roll bands. And I struggled to get the British list as long as the American one.
I look at both lists objectively, and I think the cream of the crop of both lists definitely weighs in the favor of the British.
On the flip side, I think you see a little more innovation on the American list. And I think the middle and bottom of the American list carries a little more clout than the middle and bottom of the British list. I think the British list kind of gets a little obscure at the very bottom, when looking at the history of rock and roll bands. And I struggled to get the British list as long as the American one.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:05 pm to sparkinator
Right or not, I kept out bands with individual artists fronting them, like Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band, and Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:34 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
Janis
Doors
Charlie Daniels
Wet Willie
JJ Cale
Isley Brothers
Santana
J. Geils Band
Thunderbirds
Etta James
Velet Underground
Johnny Cash
Elvis (for goodness sake)
Jerry Lee Lewis (for goodness sake)
Beach Boys
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Young by his lonesome
The Byrds
Johnny Winter
and I could go much further
And I am not even touching on the enormous blues and soul melting pot with the likes of Muddy Waters, BB, Ray Charles, James Brown - in fact American music (put any title on it you wish, blues/soul/rock, it all be the same to me, there are common elements in all of it) was the very inspiration for the Brits.
So, yeah, we stack up quite well IMO.
Doors
Charlie Daniels
Wet Willie
JJ Cale
Isley Brothers
Santana
J. Geils Band
Thunderbirds
Etta James
Velet Underground
Johnny Cash
Elvis (for goodness sake)
Jerry Lee Lewis (for goodness sake)
Beach Boys
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Young by his lonesome
The Byrds
Johnny Winter
and I could go much further
And I am not even touching on the enormous blues and soul melting pot with the likes of Muddy Waters, BB, Ray Charles, James Brown - in fact American music (put any title on it you wish, blues/soul/rock, it all be the same to me, there are common elements in all of it) was the very inspiration for the Brits.
So, yeah, we stack up quite well IMO.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:48 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
quote:
Right or not, I kept out bands with individual artists fronting them, like Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band, and Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble.
No problem keeping out the frontmen, but I still think we lack. I gotta think that the American prosperity, just limits the creativity of that group. We just don't have as much to 'groan' about. I think it also sheds lighy on the proliference of rap. The US black definitely feels slighted and has some objectives to voice.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:37 am to WhopperDawg
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So, yeah, we stack up quite well IMO.
Not really.
America doesn't come close to stacking up a top 5 against
1. The Beatles
2. The Rolling Stones
3. Led Zeppelin
4. Pink Floyd
5. The Who.
And the Brits go much deeper than America does.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:40 am to Cockopotamus
Jimi Hendrix
Allman Brothers
Allman Brothers
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:52 am to CocoLoco
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Jimi Hendrix
As I said earlier he had to 1. Move to London and 2. Add two Brits
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:28 am to Cockopotamus
Buddy Guy
Bb king
Albert King
Freddie King
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Johnny Winter
Bon Dylan
Muddy Waters
Grateful Dead
Allman Brothers - they are up there with LZ and Pink Floyd to me
Tom Petty
The Ramones
Hendrix - I'm counting him
The band - mainly Canadian, but as american sounding as you can get
The Doors
Aerosmith
Nirvana
Bruce Springsteen - not one of my favorites, but notable
Prince
Bb king
Albert King
Freddie King
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Johnny Winter
Bon Dylan
Muddy Waters
Grateful Dead
Allman Brothers - they are up there with LZ and Pink Floyd to me
Tom Petty
The Ramones
Hendrix - I'm counting him
The band - mainly Canadian, but as american sounding as you can get
The Doors
Aerosmith
Nirvana
Bruce Springsteen - not one of my favorites, but notable
Prince
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 3:29 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:44 am to lsu2006
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Yeah, but we (well... the people WE forcibly brought here from Africa) made Jazz and Blues, so there's that.
frick England.
British bands basically introduced American blues to the American people. White folks in the US were not listening to black blues until it came back to America from England in the form of bands like the Rolling Stones, Yardbirds, John Mayall, etc.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:02 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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British bands basically introduced American blues to the American people
It was easier to sell a record with white people on it than the original black artist in the racist US at the time. Teenagers had a hard time bringing Little Richard records home without being shamed, then came Elvis/Beatles/Stones singing the same songs, making it more acceptable to have rock n roll records in your middle class white home.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:05 am to Cockopotamus
quote:
better at classic rock
Fify
Phish is from America bitch
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:38 am to Fontainebleau Dr.
quote:
The Redcoats:
Queen
Black Sabbath
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Rolling Stones
The Yardbirds
Cream
The Who
The Kinks
Oasis
The Clash
The Sex Pistols
Deep Purple
The Cure
Dire Straits
Iron Maiden
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac
Deep Purple
Coldplay
Duran Duran
The Smiths
Deep Purple
The Smiths
Judas Priest
Def Leppard
T. Rex
ELO
The Animals
Blur
Jethro Tull
Yes
Genesis
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
The Faces
Roxy Music
Radiohead
Joy Division
New Order
Uriah Heep
Echo & the Bunnymen
Muse
Spinal Tap
The Verve
Mumford & Sons
Winner winner.
And that's not even a fully complete list.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:55 am to MrCoolBeans
quote:
Little Richard
I read somewhere that Tutti Frutti is about butt secks. I'm sure that LR was well versed in that subject.
quote:
Long before Richard recorded this, he performed it at his shows as "Tutti Frutti, Good Booty." It was a very raucous and sexual song and was considered too suggestive for white audiences, so it was cleaned up considerably when he recorded it for Specialty Records. The chorus was changed to "Tutti Frutti, aw Rudi," and these original lyrics were replaced:
"If it's tight, it's alright.
If it's greasy, it makes it easy.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:02 am to White Shadeaux
quote:
Spinal Tap
Not sure if serious.
I'll add a couple more:
The Jam
Squeeze
Elvis Costello
Dave Edmunds
Nick Lowe
The Stranglers
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:14 am to Cockopotamus
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This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:16 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:34 am to Blue Velvet
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America should be embarrassed for half of that list.
We are.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:43 pm to White Shadeaux
I love these lists of how awesome the Brits are being a list of bands primarily formed prior to 1980. Give the Brits 1964-1980. Since then, US rock music has been far superior.
Also, even looking at the full history of rock, US music is far more diverse. The UK wins "blues based rock" and then after that, not much except for shoegazer and arguably post-punk.
Also, even looking at the full history of rock, US music is far more diverse. The UK wins "blues based rock" and then after that, not much except for shoegazer and arguably post-punk.
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