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Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:24 pm to CatsGoneWild
I pointed that out. There's so much more to recruiting than W/L.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:34 pm to BobBarker
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I pointed that out. There's so much more to recruiting than W/L.
No. You asserted that W/L has ZERO effect on recruiting. THAT assertions is retarded.
No one ever said it was the ONLY criteria but saying it isn't one at all is just stupid.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:39 pm to BobBarker
Winning or losing the game won't affect recruiting. Our piss poor offensive output, however, could cost us some offensive skill guys, namely Tyron Johnson.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:47 pm to ShortyRob
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No. You asserted that W/L has ZERO effect on recruiting. THAT assertions is retarded.
No one ever said it was the ONLY criteria but saying it isn't one at all is just stupid.
No, I said going 9-3, 8-4, or 7-5 has no effect on recruiting. Going 3-8 and firing your coach or going 14-0 and winning a NC would have an effect. Those are extremes. I highly doubt being average would hamper our recruiting at all. Now our "offense" can have a negative effect.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:58 pm to BobBarker
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No, I said going 9-3, 8-4, or 7-5 has no effect on recruiting.
Actually, you asserted that
quote:which is dumb because if a games is a HUGE win over someone like Bama, Arky etc etc, people always point to it as a positive in recruiting.
this game will have no effect on recruiting
NOTHING is "all" of blah blah blah. Asserting ZERO effect is just dumb. Do you not realize that recruits come from the same population of people that currently includes people VERY unhappy with LSUs offensive approach? Hence, SOME most certainly ARE affected.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:04 pm to ShortyRob
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NOTHING is "all" of blah blah blah. Asserting ZERO effect is just dumb. Do you not realize that recruits come from the same population of people that currently includes people VERY unhappy with LSUs offensive approach? Hence, SOME most certainly ARE affected.
Recruits view things differently than we do as fans. We are emotionally invested in how the team does and flip out any time they lose. Recruits look at it from an outside perspective and judge it for what it is. Once again, this loss will have little to no effect on recruiting. We have wins to counter balance it.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:17 pm to BobBarker
quote:You do realize that recruits have parents, right?
Recruits view things differently than we do as fans.
You do realize that not ALL fans are irrational but that doesn't mean ALL of the rational fans agree with you, right?
You are describing recruits as if they are a monolith. Oh lordy if only that were true, they'd be much easier to recruit!!!!
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:36 pm to ShortyRob
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You do realize that recruits have parents, right?
Most parents like a school based on their personal relationship with the coaching staff and whether or not they trust the coaches to take care of their son.
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You do realize that not ALL fans are irrational but that doesn't mean ALL of the rational fans agree with you, right?
I'd say 90% of fans are extremely irrational and non-objective when it comes to their favorite sports team. I don't think all fans agree with me. That's their opinion though, and if they'd do a little research, they'd probably come to realize a mediocre year will have little effect on recruiting.
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You are describing recruits as if they are a monolith. Oh lordy if only that were true, they'd be much easier to recruit!!!!
They're not a monolith, but years of following recruiting has taught me that most recruits tend to be a bit more rational than fans when it comes to wins and losses.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:46 pm to BobBarker
quote:And, usually more than one school/coach meets this standard.........which mean other factors can play in.
Most parents like a school based on their personal relationship with the coaching staff and whether or not they trust the coaches to take care of their son.
quote:Yes. YOU are the rational one.
I'd say 90% of fans are extremely irrational and non-objective when it comes to their favorite sports team
quote:MAY have little to no effect. And, it depends what drove the mediocre year. IE, Tennessee at least can be argued to be on the upswing. Another school with their exact same results could be on the decline. Hence, MANY factors.
come to realize a mediocre year will have little effect on recruiting
quote:Um. Stop acting like you're the only one who follows such things. I didn't fall of the turnip truck yesterday.
They're not a monolith, but years of following recruiting has taught me that most recruits tend to be a bit more rational than fans when it comes to wins and losses.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:26 pm to BobBarker
I like how you just pull that 90% bullshite out of your arse. You have no clue
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:42 pm to ELVIS U
Jeremy Hill's performance today in the Superdome was amazing. He should be a senior at LSU right now. Surely (especially on a Saints game) Louisiana recruits saw Hill today. AMAZING!!!
THAT is what I would look at if I were a skills player....
THAT is what I would look at if I were a skills player....
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:28 pm to RockBottom
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I like how you just pull that 90% bullshite out of your arse. You have no clue
Just take a fricking look around you man. If you can't see that most of the people on this site are pretty irrational, then you're fricking dumb.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:37 pm to BobBarker
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Just take a fricking look around you man. If you can't see that most of the people on this site are pretty irrational, then you're fricking dumb.
Every board has a few of you. They existed way back when I was talking about Dinardo on Tigerroar too.
They're the guys who run into the room trying to prove how "reasonable" they are that they aren't the nutjobs who want the coach's head.
Few of those dudes literally argued up to the week Dinardo got fired. I shite you not. One of them with the handle Bill D was actually pissed the day Dinardo got fired.
Said us irrational fans were to blame for running off a perfectly good coach.
Yeah. The folks who wanted him GONE were the irrational ones.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:18 pm to ShortyRob
Dude, did you really just compare Dinardo to Les? You're fricking insane. How in the frick is that comparison valid? We had three straight years of 3-4 wins under Dinardo before he got fired. We've had three straight years of 3-4 losses under Les. The situation isn't even remotely similar. You are a fricking dumb arse of the highest order if you compare anything Les has ever done to Dinardo.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:16 am to CatsGoneWild
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Posted by CatsGoneWild Tennessee, USCe, atm, and Clemson are in the top 10 right now. How have their seasons went?
I'll say this. Recruits see opportunity in those programs as there are positions up for grabs, and more importantly, they see that the program appears to be heading in the right direction evidenced by some improvement. Right now we are on the down swing seemingly and traveling in the wrong direction as a program. That perception could make a big difference in some recruits decision.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:18 am to CatsGoneWild
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Tennessee, USCe, atm, and Clemson are in the top 10 right now. How have their seasons went?
Do they run the same juggernaut offense as we do?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:22 pm to ShortyRob
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Oh for frick's sake. Stop it with that "because he's white" shite. 99.9% of the people calling for Harris probably wonder how any QB could be worse than AJ.....white or black. Jeebus.
I haven't seen enough of Harris to know if he is black ,white or even a Eskimo. I was out of the country during his entire 5 minute appearance.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:35 pm to CBandits82
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If I am a WR I'm scared to come here.
right, just like duke went to a pass happy auburn offense instead of lsu coming off a record setting year for pass production?
the OP has it right. this year sucks but the recruiting is being done in part when last year's offensive players: mett, landry, odell, hill, and even blue are putting up great results for rookies.
it shouldn't be hard to sell really. just tell the recruits to turn on the television on sunday
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:02 pm to molsusports
Not only does the Arkansas game have an effect on recruiting but the indecisiveness of players to commit to LSU is obvious just looking at Rivals rankings? Ok, i realize some people think these rankings mean shite and Espn hates LSU, but for those who aren't so ignorant and would rather not live in denial, the facts are: LSU is ranked 16th, Alabama is 1st. Currently Bama has 14 4* players to LSUs 5 4*. Players do care about wins and losses. Players do care that the LSU offense is stuck in the 60s. Players do care that the offense is lathargic at best. Players do care if an offense can't throw the ball.
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