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Question about a business server

Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:46 pm
Apparently the server we currently use is on it's deathbed.

This is a medical environment with documentation but our documentation is actually stored at an offsite server.

We have approximately 10 computers on our network.

Do we really need a new server or could we get away with workgroups?

Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:47 pm to
What do you use the server for?
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20982 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:51 pm to
It used to be used to store documentation data but we no longer use it like that.

The IT people said it would be easier to run a mass firewall and keep all computers malware/virus software updated.

I was skeptical about this. While it may make it easier, it wouldn't be impossible to impose firewall sanctions and keep virus software updated
Posted by ADLSUNSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
3518 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:19 pm to
Do you use it for HIPAA style group policies?

With the data being elsewhere, not sure the backup functionality on the workstations would be as needed, but also a plus.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5685 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:45 pm to
I'm guessing you guys are running AD on the server. Are you guys using roaming profiles? Any Group Policy stuff? Exchange? Do you like the way things are set up now? Costs an issue?

I'm not 100% where the firewall comes into this though. While my HIPAA experience isn't very deep, you should be running a good firewall anyhow. If you already have a sufficient one in place, not sure why you need to buy a new one unless I'm misunderstanding something.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20982 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:51 pm to
we have remote access to offsite servers for our documentation. It is not specifically linked to our place of business as i can pull up my remote desktop at home from my PC.

I do believe that we currently are able to sign on at any work station right now with our user ID's but to be honest all of us only ever log on to our own workstation which would eliminate the need for a linked network user name.

Just trying to help figure out if it's really a necessity as we have been brainstorming and can't find too many reasons.

The IT company would have us believe it is necessary but that is likely due to the nice paycheck that would go into their pocket for setup.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
From what you've described you guys don't have to have a server. The workstations would need to be removed from the domain and local accounts would need to be created for anyone wanting to login at each workstation. Would need to make sure the router/firewall is handling DHCP and DNS functions.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:07 pm to
Piggyback off the thread --->

So my lab is looking to expand our presence and make our computationally intensive modeling a little easier. We currently have a small cluster (5 comps) but we were discussing potentially putting in a small server to handle our websites and data (image, video, etc) as well.

Do we even need to go with a server, or should we just sort of run everything through the central on the cluster?
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:14 pm to
CptBengal, yes I would recommend a server in this instance.
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:14 pm to
Go to the cloud. Any decent IT provider would be able to set you up with a cloud based solution that could meet your needs, and in the long run it should be cheaper than having to maintain your own hardware.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5685 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Go to the cloud. Any decent IT provider would be able to set you up with a cloud based solution that could meet your needs, and in the long run it should be cheaper than having to maintain your own hardware.



Probably so, but as ADLSUNSU mentioned, be aware of any HIPAA issues with cloud based solutions since this is a medical office. I don't deal with HIPAA much anymore in my current role, so not sure what is compliant and not compliant these days.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:18 am to
AWS, Azure, and whatever VMware is calling theirs this week are all kosher.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28076 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:10 pm to
Cloud is the answer. Why aren't they proposing this? You still may need some smaller server, it just depends on the whole setup.

Be aware you will have recurrent costs and may need more bandwidth.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 2:12 pm to
Medical images are large in file size so I don't think this works well in the cloud. You're going to need higher upload speeds from your ISP will bring up the costs for this solution. For medical I wouldn't trust the cloud.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28076 posts
Posted on 11/15/14 at 2:22 pm to
Agreed, to really give an analysis, a chargeable, onsite would be required.
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