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Illegal formation on Bama trick play on first play in OT

Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:08 pm
While it was a great trick play they were in an illegal formation. There were only 6 men on the line of scrimmage. The gain to the one should have been negated and LSU given the option of a five yard illegal formation penalty or 15 yards unsportsmanlike conduct after the play. Would have moved The Tide back to their 40 first and 25.

This morning Bama fans could be growing about the unsportsmanlike call that cost them the game.

Think about it.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:14 pm to
Thanks for the link. There are two receivers flanked wide left of the tight end who caught the ball and both are in eh backfield. The two receivers on the right one inside of Cam Robinson and the outside receiver are both in the backfield. The QB is the fifth man in the backfield.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:14 pm to
a trick lay? ooh
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21652 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:14 pm to
They only had 6 men on the line, and the RB that moved towards Bama's sideline during the shift never came set which is also illegal. You can't see that in the gif above, but it's obvious on the CBS broadcast.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:14 pm to
It should have been 1st and 30 from the 45. Let's go back and replay it.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10275 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:17 pm to
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It should have been 1st and 30 from the 45. Let's go back and replay it.


Too bad you cant play the rest of the game under protest like in baseball.
Posted by FourthQuarter
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:18 pm to
Do you REALLY think havign an extra man in the backfield mattered in that play? Bama beat us.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:19 pm to
Both outside WRs are on the line on the right. Hence why one is ineligible and doesnt go downfield for a pass.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:21 pm to
It did matter. It could've pinned them farther and altered the drive/play-calling, as the late penalty did us.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:22 pm to
it was a legal play
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Do you REALLY think havign an extra man in the backfield mattered in that play? Bama beat us.


Yeah, man, frick the rules, right?

While you can't exactly be happy that the defense gave up a big play, this wasn't the first time this season when a big play should have been negated by a procedure penalty yet the flag wasn't thrown. (Mississippi State's tackle or guard clearly moved early on one of their long touchdown plays as well with no call. Not sure how obvious things can be missed when you have two guys looking down the line from each sideline.)
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:24 pm to
It was actually a legal play and a great play call.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Do you REALLY think havign an extra man in the backfield mattered in that play? Bama beat us.


Yes, because it created confusion on coverages. The left side the defense had to assume the two receivers were eligible as well as Cam Robinson being an eligible receiver and allocate personnel which left them short handed on the opposite side.

Whether it mattered to the play is irrelevant, if he line up illegally its a penalty. If the left defensive end sacks the QB on a scramble to the right and the right defensive end lines up two inches offsides and has no effect on the play the offsides is still called.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94847 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

It was actually a legal play and a great play call.
Yep, and then we were gifted with a 15 yard penalty and still couldnt stop them from scoring a TD. The game was 100% lost by us
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1907 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:25 pm to
Looks to me like #2, White, is on the line to the right of Robinson. Iffy, but he's no further off the line than the right tackle.

Auburn folks around here are arguing that Robinson went out for a pass. Umm, no.

Good play call. Very similar to one Auburn scored a TD against us as well. Sometimes it happens. I bet Chief is sick that Kiffin got him on this one.

GEAUX TIGERS
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10170 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:25 pm to
With the ball on the 25, it looks to me that #2 is not up on the line. The point is moot, because it didn't get called, but I just wanted to say how it looks to me.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8329 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
The WR on the very right appears to be leaning back initially which makes him look off the LOS. I'm sure he told the ref "hey, I'm on." Though. The guy just inside of him doesnt go downfield so they didn't get an unfair advantage off it unless they tried to make us think that the outside guy was off the LOS
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Both outside WRs are on the line on the right. Hence why one is ineligible and doesnt go downfield for a pass.
This. As much as I dislike them, must admit it was a great playcall. Took some guts.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16368 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
Looks to me like the players on either side of CRob are off the LOS. Sims is. And then the two at the top of the screen are off the LOS (they have to be or the T would be "covered"). That would make it an illegal formation.
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