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Weird Fact: Brandon Harris is still LSU's leading TD scorer

Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by KeepIt100
Member since Nov 2014
87 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:54 pm
LSU's touchdown leaders are as follows: Harris is in first place with 9 touchdowns (6 passing, 3 rushing). Second place is Jennings (8 TD), and third belongs to Fournette (7 TD).

Yet, Harris has "basically disappeared." (LINK)

Does anyone else think it's peculiar that we're benching our most proven offensive weapon?

Jennings is supposed to a "game manager", but I'm not seeing that. Here's why:

• He has fumbled the ball 8 times. (LINK)

• He has thrown 5 interceptions. (LINK)

• We're among the most penalized teams in the SEC, which is partially due to repeat delays of game with him under center (LINK).

• We're not moving the chains very well with him. In fact, LSU is #21 in total punts in the NCAA (LINK).

• He is one incompletion away from dropping below 50% accuracy, which is unheard of for a firmly entrenched starting QB at a major program. (LINK).

• He has accounted for less than 1 touchdown per game (0.88) as leader of our offense

I'm not positive that Harris is the answer, but I think he does deserve an opportunity to compete for the job on the field, which he has not been getting since his bad first half at Auburn. He's only been given one passing rep since then, and 2 DNP's. That wouldn't be so crazy to me if Jennings had completely outshined him in Auburn after getting into the game, by throwing for big yards, getting points on the board, etc (like Harris did vs. Miss. State) but he didn't.

I hope Harris keeps his head up and that the coaching staff give him an opportunity, because he really hasn't gotten a fair shake IMO.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37560 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:55 pm to
Hurts to see that
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:55 pm to
But but but he doesnt know the playbook

Hes too skinny

He hasnt mastered the handoff quite like jennings
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:58 pm to
I actually see Harris coming in because Bama's weakness is pass D and he brings us a much more dangerous element. He's been in the offense longer now, taken a few lumps, and is probably much more prepared to handle the big stage. He's the future because his ceiling is a lot higher than Jennings. It's only a matter of time before he takes it over for good. It's pretty similar to Kendall Beckwith taking over for Welter. Both (Jennings and Welter) were "smart" at the position but physically Beckwith and Harris are just much more gifted.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted by KeepIt100
Member since Nov 2014
87 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:01 pm to
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He's the future because his ceiling is a lot higher than Jennings.


Exactly. With two losses already, it's not like we're winning a national title this year so I'm not sure why we're so concerned with "game management." We should be investing in our best QB and giving him reps.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:03 pm to
Yeah, Harris, with no playing time since Auburn, is going to play. How? There are only 2 scenarios he plays: 1. Jennings gets hurt or 2. LSU is getting destroyed; why do these threads keep coming up. People bring up completion percentage with Jennings all the time. Have you ever seen a game with a less accurate qb than Harris was at Auburn? It's not like we are hiding Winston on the bench. People need to just stop with all the Harris shite until he actually plays again at least.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71480 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:05 pm to
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which is partially due to repeat delays of game with him under center

That's on the sideline. Jennings is constantly telling them to hurry up. Harris having less knowledge of the playbook would probably make that worse.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:07 pm to
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We're among the most penalized teams in the SEC, which is partially due to repeat delays of game with him under center


That is more a result of the coaching staff's inability to get the playcalls to Jennings in a timely manner. Seriously, watch LSU's offense between snaps.

For some reason with Harris they would typically hurry up to the line and then do a "check with me" where Harris would get the play from the sideline.

However, with Jennings they typically have to wait to huddle up after the call is given. It's pretty bizarre why they would vary from one QB to the next.

quote:

He's no stranger to turning the ball over (5 INT), and has more than his share of fumbles and mishandled snaps.


With the exception of the second half against Ole Miss and the first quarter against New Mexico State I think he has been anything other than a turnover machine.

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We're not moving the chains very well with him. In fact, LSU is #21 in total punts in the NCAA


Playcalling and poor execution from other players is also to blame.

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He is one incompletion away from dropping below 50% accuracy, which is unheard of for a firmly entrenched starting QB at a major program.


Now this is pretty inexcusable.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38202 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:08 pm to
Yeah all those TDs against NMSU are so outstanding. You people are miserable. Harris isn't ready to be a starter. Case closed.
Posted by Dunk47
Member since Jan 2014
1059 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:08 pm to
They haveng had that many Delay of Game penalties or false starts or illegal shifts. They have also been in possession of most of not all timeouts at the ends of halfs this season. I consider that a vast improvement on offense. Also take into account. 9 games, 50 penalties and 400 yards = 5.5 penalties and 44 yards per game of penalties. Not the worst I've seen. They have gotten quite a few ghost unsportsmanlike conduct calls and PI that adds up quick.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

LSU's scoring leaders are as follows: Harris is in first place with 9 touchdowns (6 passing, 3 rushing). Second place is Jennings (8 TD), and third belongs to Fournette (7 TD).

Yet, Harris has "basically disappeared." (LINK)

Does anyone else think it's peculiar that we're benching our most proven offensive weapon?

Jennings is supposed to a "game manager", but I'm not seeing that:

• He's no stranger to turning the ball over (5 INT), and has more than his share of fumbles and mishandled snaps.

• We're among the most penalized teams in the SEC, which is partially due to repeat delays of game with him under center (LINK).

• We're not moving the chains very well with him. In fact, LSU is #21 in total punts in the NCAA (LINK).

• He is one incompletion away from dropping below 50% accuracy, which is unheard of for a firmly entrenched starting QB at a major program. (LINK).

I'm not positive that Harris is the answer, but I think he does deserve an opportunity to compete for the job on the field, which he has not been getting since his bad first half at Auburn. He's only been given one passing rep since then, and 2 DNP's. That wouldn't be so crazy to me if Jennings had completely outshined him in Auburn after getting into the game, by throwing for big yards, getting points on the board, etc (like Harris did vs. Miss. State) but he didn't.

I hope Harris keeps his head up and that the coaching staff give him an opportunity, because he really hasn't gotten a fair shake IMO.






Good read it is a shame Harris hasn't been able to compete with Jennings, but I am sure he will be ready when he gets another shot.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28225 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:10 pm to
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h, Harris, with no playing time since Auburn, is going to play. How? There are only 2 scenarios he plays: 1. Jennings gets hurt or 2. LSU is getting destroyed; why do these threads keep coming up. People bring up completion percentage with Jennings all the time. Have you ever seen a game with a less accurate qb than Harris was at Auburn? It's not like we are hiding Winston on the bench. People need to just stop with all the Harris shite until he actually plays again at least.



Thank you!!! But, but, did you see him rip a few garbage teams and MSU when they were trying to run out the clock?!!!! Based on that he's CLEARLY the better QB.
Posted by KeepIt100
Member since Nov 2014
87 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Yeah, Harris, with no playing time since Auburn, is going to play. How? There are only 2 scenarios he plays: 1. Jennings gets hurt or 2. LSU is getting destroyed; why do these threads keep coming up. People bring up completion percentage with Jennings all the time. Have you ever seen a game with a less accurate qb than Harris was at Auburn? It's not like we are hiding Winston on the bench. People need to just stop with all the Harris shite until he actually plays again at least.


Why are you holding one half of football, in his first SEC road experience, against him so badly? That's not only draconian, that's straight up Nazi-ish.

Should Bo Wallace have been perma-benched by Ole Miss for his terrible first half against us? He looked just as bad or worse as Harris did at Auburn.

Harris is the only QB on our team who has looked terrific throwing the ball at any point this year. He has even looked like an NFL QB at times (Miss St., New Mexico). You have to seize on that and develop his potential, especially when the alternative is Jennings.

Everyone compares Jennings to Jordan Jefferson, but I don't even think that's fair. At least Jefferson was completing over 60% of his passes during his sophomore year (LINK).
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7294 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:15 pm to
You can absolutely win a national title. Improbable as frick? Yes, but it is POSSIBLE. As long as there is a shot, I'm keeping the guy in that has proven himself to win games.

edit - Maybe i should say the best shot to win the games. You dont switch up your gameplan when youre on a hot streak.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23015 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:17 pm to
He is the only QB in the world who's better at throwing than handing-off.

Where he's probably the worst in the nation is simply calling the play and executing the handoff. Not that he's terrible at it, it's just at LSU, that needs to be perfect.
Posted by KeepIt100
Member since Nov 2014
87 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

You can absolutely win a national title. Improbable as frick? Yes, but it is POSSIBLE. As long as there is a shot, I'm keeping the guy in that has proven himself to win games.



So we should tap into our IRA, go down to the Belle of Baton Rouge, and put it all on Red #10? Smart people invest in the future, they don't take long-shots.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:22 pm to
It was bad enough for the coaches to not even play him since. I know he had an ankle injury and it was really a long shot for him to play against Florida, but he hasn't touched the field; at all. I have nothing against Harris. Why should anyone? I'm just pointing out that he had an opportunity and didn't perform well. I mean, as a team that was our worst game hands down. We don't have a lot to go on as far as Harris' production and it's evident the coaches don't feel comfortable with him. LSU is playing its best football and I don't expect they will break that rhythm. If it was to our benefit to the game plan to play Harris, he will/(would have) play/(played). I have no reason to believe that is the case.
Posted by KeepIt100
Member since Nov 2014
87 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:23 pm to
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LSU's linebackers are playing their best football without D.J. Welter and I don't expect they will break that rhythm.


Fixed it for you.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38202 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

At least Jefferson was completing over 60% of his passes during his sophomore year


Compare the WR experience from then to now.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:24 pm to
yeah, and oline could be put in that statement as well.
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