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The most critical issue facing the REPS now......

Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:08 am
Identify a candidate for 2016 that can win.

Gridlock is killing this country. We need someone in charge who can get things done.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Identify a candidate for 2016 that can win.


Rand Paul

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quote:

Gridlock is killing this country. We need someone in charge who can get things done.


frick no. Gridlock is awesome. "Getting things done" in 2009 gave us ACA.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:12 am to
quote:

"Getting things done" in 2009 gave us ACA.


No, lack of leadership gave us a terrible bill that is basically unimplementable. Adults in charge should be able to make good decisions for the country.

Gridlock is a cop-out. PERIOD. End of story.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47575 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Gridlock is awesome
Posted by michaeldwde
N.C.
Member since Nov 2010
3186 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:14 am to
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Rand Paul



If I had alters, you would get upvotes from them all...
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Gridlock is a cop-out. PERIOD. End of story.


Soooo...what is it that you want the Fed Gov to accomplish legislatively?


quote:

lack of leadership


status quo

quote:

Adults in charge should be able to make good decisions for the country.


1) frick. I want them to let ME make my own decisions

2) ADULTS? Boehner and McConnell are the "leaders".
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

No, lack of leadership gave us a terrible bill that is basically unimplementable. Adults in charge should be able to make good decisions for the country. Gridlock is a cop-out. PERIOD. End of story.


If that's your opinion, then don't get pissy when ACA, NDAA, patriot act or other bullshite legislation gets passed.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Gridlock is postponing this country's demise




fify
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:16 am to
Gridlock is our only hope because it keeps Washington from passing MORE STUPID shite
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:16 am to
I agree on the gridlock canard.

With or without a good candidate in 2016, the Rs can't win unless they prove they are different than they have been.
I say they do that by focusing on winnable issues about which the other side doesn't have entrenched opposition and that increase personal freedom.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Gridlock is awesome.


This is the problem I have with my "small government" friends. Government should be as small as possible, but there are still things that government needs to do, and it needs to be properly funded enough to do them well. Gridlock gives us broken unfunded programs and 3 month budget resolutions.

We need to accomplish some things as a federal government - establish new laws like redoing our tax system and figuing out how to fix/repeal O-care. Gridlock doesn't do that... gridlock just gives us more of the same.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:24 am to
We need a 2016 candidate. We also need voices/faces for the GOP.

They can be the same, but they don't have to be. Boehner and Mitch are not good voices for the GOP.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:42 am to
Gridlock is not bad. More gridlock would have prevented obamacare.

Eta, I see I'm late to the party.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Gridlock is not bad. More gridlock would have prevented obamacare.



But you have to avoid delivering full control to the left again, which enabled Obamacare. There is nothing wrong with analyzing and predicting the country's response to our action or inaction.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:51 am to
I realize that. But the op was lamenting gridlock.

Whatever the congress passes will be portrayed as republicans hate Latinos, the middle class and are giving breaks to evil corporations.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Gridlock is not bad. More gridlock would have prevented obamacare


Incorrect. The GOP running good candidates and getting voters to turn out in 2008 would have prevented Obamacare.

Thoughts like yours are why too many people believe the GOP has no desire to be leaders, they just want to be obstructionists.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Thoughts like yours are why too many people believe the GOP has no desire to be leaders, they just want to be obstructionists.


You realize gridlock takes two opposing sides, correct? It's not just republicans, unless you believe Obama.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

You realize gridlock takes two opposing sides, correct? It's not just republicans, unless you believe Obama.


Of course, gridlock occurs cause neither side wants to compromise. What I'm saying, essentially, is that gridlock (which is the fault of both parties) means O-care won't get repealed, the IRS won't get fixed, etc.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20850 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Gridlock is killing this country.



How? It was designed to work like this. Explain how it is "killing the country."

quote:

We need someone in charge who can get things done.


We should all be ecstatic that we have a lame duck president. Barring a bunch of illegal EOs, there is nothing better for America than neutered politicians.

I foresee no new wars, no trillion dollar stimuli, and no sweeping legislation for the next two years. Life is good (read: stable).
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