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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)
Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:43 am to Cs
Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:43 am to Cs
Yay, we were both wrong! 
So was the signal sent from Brand in the novelization?
I ask because if so Murph's words in sending him off doesn't make sense.
ETA: just grabbed it......so no, it doesn't.
I'd have to assume the talk about slowing the station's day/night cycle down was something a little extra added by the author than the screenplay.
So was the signal sent from Brand in the novelization?
I ask because if so Murph's words in sending him off doesn't make sense.
ETA: just grabbed it......so no, it doesn't.
I'd have to assume the talk about slowing the station's day/night cycle down was something a little extra added by the author than the screenplay.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 6:18 am
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:16 am to Cs
I don't suppose the novelization extends a little beyond where the movie leaves off, does it?
I saw the movie this past weekend and had the impression that the wormhole would close after Cooper reenters Brand's galaxy (no euphemisms) because of the Adam/Eve allusion at the end.
If Earth's refugees were to follow behind Cooper, though, Plan B would be nixed and the Adam/Eve similarity ends with one waking from a deep sleep to find the other.
I saw the movie this past weekend and had the impression that the wormhole would close after Cooper reenters Brand's galaxy (no euphemisms) because of the Adam/Eve allusion at the end.
If Earth's refugees were to follow behind Cooper, though, Plan B would be nixed and the Adam/Eve similarity ends with one waking from a deep sleep to find the other.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:35 am to PHS
No, it ends with the movie, in exactly the same way as it.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:47 am to Volvagia
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I'd have to assume the talk about slowing the station's day/night cycle down was something a little extra added by the author than the screenplay.
The screenplay doesn't say either way what happens at the end. That's why we are having this conversation to begin with. However, this is the film's official novelization which is based off the script and approved by the filmmakers and studio before it gets published.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:24 am to Cs
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Well, I can admit when I was wrong. It appears the wormhole was indeed still open. From the official novelization of the film -
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:56 pm to OMLandshark
So, we're suppose to but the novelization but not the writer of the script? I'm not buying that at all. I'll trust what I saw on film.
I'll trust what I saw on film.Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:59 pm to abellsujr
Why do you ignore the fact that the script was rewritten by someone else prior to the start of filming?
And the third sentence is rather ironic given the first......
And the third sentence is rather ironic given the first......
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:04 pm to PHS
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I don't suppose the novelization extends a little beyond where the movie leaves off, does it?
It doesn't. However, if you enjoyed the film, then I do recommend reading through the novel - it's essentially the screenplay with some additional information and context (ie, what characters are thinking, descriptions of specific concepts, etc).
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:08 pm to Volvagia
quote:Nolan left this movie up to interpretation. That's his MO. People have a right to believe what they want about the movie. Nolan said as much about Inception. I believe he did the same for this movie. There is no solid evidence in the film itself.
Why do you ignore the fact that the script was rewritten by someone else prior to the start of filming?
I never denied that the script was changed. But that doesn't change the fact that no solid evidence exists either way regarding the film itself.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:10 pm to abellsujr
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I'll trust what I saw on film.
Then you'd know the wormhole was open. There is nothing that indicates that it's closed, and the novelization provides a rational reason why they didn't go back through the wormhole. Your argument is dead in the water.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:13 pm to Cs
quote:Parking near Saturn made zero sense whatsoever if it were closed.
parked outside of the wormhole -
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:13 pm to OMLandshark
Nolan on the Interstellar ending:
quote:LINK
When pressed for more details on the highly-discussed ending, though, Christopher Nolan had this to say.
"No way, man! You're just going to have to go back and see it again. It's there for you to make what you make of it. People do always have radically different interpretations of things I put in there, but I know what I think and I don't like it to have any more validity than the experience you have watching it."
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:15 pm to abellsujr
It saddens me that you really are as stupid as you seem. I alway hope I am wrong about such things.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:16 pm to AlxTgr
Does he not say for us to interpret it as we will? What am I missing here?
ETA: ANd once again with the personal attacks for having my own interpretation.
ETA: ANd once again with the personal attacks for having my own interpretation.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:18 pm to OMLandshark
Exactly.
He says it is up to intrepretation, except there is zero evidence to support it inside the film.
Not even circumstantial.
And if this is the interview that he is basing it off of, it is clear he is talking about the ideas and concepts they are trying to convey, and using an event from a previous iteration of the script to illustrate this
He even directly transitions from talking about the film and the part he is hung up on with the words "In an earlier version of the script"
He says it is up to intrepretation, except there is zero evidence to support it inside the film.
Not even circumstantial.
And if this is the interview that he is basing it off of, it is clear he is talking about the ideas and concepts they are trying to convey, and using an event from a previous iteration of the script to illustrate this
He even directly transitions from talking about the film and the part he is hung up on with the words "In an earlier version of the script"
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:18 pm to abellsujr
quote:Every single post explaining why closed makes zero sense considering other aspects of the movie.
What am I missing here?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:20 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Nolan left this movie up to interpretation. That's his MO
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:20 pm to abellsujr
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Nolan left this movie up to interpretation. That's his MO. People have a right to believe what they want about the movie. Nolan said as much about Inception. I believe he did the same for this movie. There is no solid evidence in the film itself.
Nolan is overly said to do this, when I really think he doesn't do it that much really. Even Inception, his most misunderstood film, it doesn't matter whether the top falls or stays up. All that matters is that Cobb has found peace with himself and ready to move on with his kids. That I don't think is open to interpretation and is obvious if you understand the movie. Whether Cobb is awake or not is irrelevant.
The wormhole being closed though, unlike the dream in Inception, does change the context of the ending. It's pretty straight forward that Murph told her father to go and find Brand, who is now all alone on Edmunds. He can't do that without the wormhole, and it complicates things to such a high degree that it changes the context of what Murph is telling him: they would both know that's an impossibility without the wormhole, so it makes me think that Murph did not forgive her father and told him basically to frick off and go off and try to find the person he abandoned her for, mocking him knowing it was impossible. I instead like the most simple and intended explanation: that she forgives him and knows that there is no place for him here and to go back to Brand who is now the only one who can identify with him. That's simple, wonderful, and to the point. The closed wormhole needlessly complicates everything.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:37 pm to OMLandshark
What do you guys want? You want me to say the wormhole is open? Fine it's open.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:45 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Fine it's open
you fought a good fight 
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