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re: Why isn't Lorenzo Phillips a LB take this year?

Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:11 am to
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:11 am to
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Says the guy who clearly had no idea what he was talking about making a Logan comparison.



You seem stuck on the Logan comparison when all of us are confused by your comparison of a former LSU player that redshirted in 2012.


Did he hook up with your mom or something? There is something you are not telling us. But then again, we don't really care about your opinion.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25943 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:29 am to
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So a couple plays.


Wow.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 11:33 am to
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You seem stuck on the Logan comparison


You made it, I called it out as being dumb because it was. They are nothing similar.


quote:

former LSU player that redshirted in 2012.


And was on the team still in 2013, and was behind FOUR guys who were either sophmores or younger. It's not like he was behind a few seniors and juniors...FOUR guys who were essentially his age or younger.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 12:34 pm to
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and the Logan comparison proves that.

Phillips was behind 4 guys at OLB that were THE SAME CLASS he is or younger when he was here.

4 guys. Not seniors, not juniors, sophomores or younger.


WOW! You need to stop while you are ahead. If you stop talking now, no one will ever know.

You do know the 5th LBer is 2nd team, right? I bet you are ecstatic you are not judged on your job or in life like you can judge our Tigers.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 12:38 pm to
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His skillset had him behind everyone who was a sophomore when he was here his 2nd year and even a true freshman


And Beckwith's skill set had him behind Welter. Guess he should have been cut, right?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 12:53 pm to
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And Beckwith's skill set had him behind Welter. Guess he should have been cut, right?



I think it was just a post he made with barely any critical thinking involved. But now poster is defending himself while wishing for the thread to be deleted.


Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 3:47 pm to
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You do know the 5th LBer is 2nd team, right? I bet you are ecstatic you are not judged on your job or in life like you can judge our Tigers.


OLB not LB.

He was behind 4 OLB's, and that's just counting the guys who were sophomores and freshmen. NOT the upper classmen at that time.

The #5 OLB is not 2nd string, and he wasnt even that.
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 3:51 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 3:50 pm to
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And Beckwith's skill set had him behind Welter. Guess he should have been cut, right?


Beckwith was at DE as a freshman and got moved to MLB this year. It's not a position you just jump into and start ESPECIALLY when there is a returning starter considering you line up the defense. Also, Beckwith took what, just half a season to take over for a returning senior starter? That means he is actually good, Phillips was not only behind upper classmen his 2nd year but behind THREE sophomores and 1 true freshman.

That comparison was even dumber than the Bennie Logan one.

How do you some of not understand a guy being young and being behind a bunch of other young guys is NOT the same as a young guy behind experienced upperclassmen starters?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:23 pm to
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Beckwith was at DE as a freshman and got moved to MLB this year



Horrible explaination. You've gone full-blown idiot mode. I don't think anyone really cares about your opinion on football.

Are you a soccer fan that passes time in the fall with football?

You are forcing way too many ridiculous opinions upon the rant where you are losing credibility per post.

So stupid.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35444 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:28 pm to
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Will probably end up at A&M



Bama is supposedly waiting in the tall grass for Phillips, looking for 2 more LBs. They just recently checked in on him at EMCC.

Guessing they are either waiting on grades or seeing what spots they have available.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 6:26 pm to
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Horrible explaination.


Good talk, you cant even do anything but misspell insults at this point
Posted by LSUnGA08
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2005
232 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:48 pm to
Grades
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2354 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:50 pm to
Players progress at different paces at different times. Just because he came in skinny doesnt mean that he doesnt have the skill or talent to play, it just means that he needs time.

All of this is rudimentary reasoning.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 9:54 pm to
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How do you some of not understand a guy being young and being behind a bunch of other young guys is NOT the same as a young guy behind experienced upperclassmen starters?





Are you really talking about misspelling when you can't even put a sentence together?

You can't make this shite up.


I was wrong. You aren't choosing to be an a-hole or clueless; You are guilty of being both.

I suppose spell check could've helped me, but it cannot help you put a sentence together, nor can it help you have a clue about football, kid.


ETA: I was tired of you, but you're funny.....I think I want more. Had enough, yet? Good talk, dipshit. :lol:
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10378 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:17 am to
I just don't think we need a JUCO LB unless he is a no-doubt instant-impact guy, which I don't see in Phillips. We are also pretty deep at OLB, and from what I have read recently Phillips may not even be a take for aTm anymore.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6925 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:57 am to
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I just don't think we need a JUCO LB unless he is a no-doubt instant-impact guy, which I don't see in Phillips. We are also pretty deep at OLB, and from what I have read recently Phillips may not even be a take for aTm anymore.



Pretty much what thunderbird was trying to say until he got de-nutted
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30047 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:21 am to
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We are also pretty deep at OLB


Not so. MLB looks okay but OLB is not deep. The problem with some ranters is that they look at this year's LB depth, but never take into account for the years ahead.

You should be recruiting this year for 2016/2017 depth so you won't be forced to plug a freshman into a starting role, right away. even though you have to sometimes.

This is why Thunderbird is not only wrong, but completely stupid on so many levels. But since she's worried about spellcheck, I don't see her in this thread but making her case somewhere else, where someone else may listen.



2015 LB

Lamar Louis 6-0 225 sr
Deion Jones 6-2 225 sr
Duke Riley 6-1 220 jr

Kendall Beckwith 6-3 235 jr
Clifton Garrett 6-2 230 so
Ronnie Fiest 6-2 230 jr

Kwon Alexander 6-1 230 sr
Donnie Alexander 6-2 220 so



2016 LB

Duke Riley 6-1 225 jr

Kendall Beckwith 6-3 245 sr
Clifton Garrett 6-2 230 jr
Ronnie Fiest 6-2 230 sr

Donnie Alexander 6-2 225 jr



This is why prospects like Malik Jefferson, John Houston and Roquan Smith are so important....More so than K. Lucier Smith or Porter Gustin, as I don't think they are Chavis-mold OLB's.

Whether any of these three are even close to considering LSU is another story, but they are huge needs.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 6:46 am
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:28 am to
Since he's already been at LSU for 2 years, our coaches know exactly what he can do / what type of player he is. If they don't even offer him, that should tell you everything you need to know. They have seen this kid everyday for practice, workouts, film sessions, meetings, etc for 2 seasons. If they don't even offer him after seeing him for 2 years, they don't think he will have an impact for us.

And TAMU has backed off of him as well.

I have no idea where he will end up.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39093 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:02 am to
The last thing we need is 400 linebackers all graduating at the same time. We have lot's of linebacker depth between now and when LP would depart. We need freshman talent at LB, not juniors.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:56 am to
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I was wrong. You aren't choosing to be an a-hole or clueless; You are guilty of being both


The conversation was well over by the time you made this comparison to Bennie Logan. That right there showed you didn't have clue #1 what you were talking about. After it was clearly explained to you why that was a dumb comparison you continued to self destruct like the mental midget you are. At this point you just look like a lost puppy.
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