Who thinks not having P Thomas and K Robinson was a blessing in disguise?

i disagree...the Saints have run really well this season, including when everyone was healthy.

Ingram has played great, and I have always liked the guy.


...but a lot of it has been about our commitment and focus on the run game since the end of last season/playoffs that has continued into this year

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I think giving Pierre or Khiry the ball for the sake of giving them the ball is a bad idea.

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ya, cause they have had totally ineffective seasons


...there's something to be said for having two beasts with fresh legs.

It's worked for Payton with some phenomenal seasons with very efficient running (by committee)

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I would turn the 4 RB rotation into a 2 RB rotation. Ingram with ~20 touches per game, and PT with ~10 touches. If Ingram gets hurt, Khiry gets all of his touches. If PT gets hurt, Cadet gets all of his touches. That's it.

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I guess I could live with that given Pierre's knack for getting positive yards and first downs, and his blocking and catching ability. But Ingram should get no less than 20 touches a game.

I don't get it...Khiry's running for 5.2 YPC...after the love fest that went on for this guy (deservedly), he should never get the ball anymore? why?

...the rhythm/wearing down a defense thing is nonsense, imo...if you're a good running back, you're a good running back...and Ingram is, but like I said, two beasts with fresh legs at 15 carries a piece can be better than one at 30 carries...Payton does the RBBC, and it has worked...I don't really care about total rushing per player...I care about team total rushing and team YPC

Why is Ingram at 27 carries who has been wearing down a defense better for that 28th carry than fresh-legged Khiry who averages 5 YPC?...he's not

Should be Mark Ingram on 1st and 2nd PT on 3rd, then bring Robinson late as a sledgehammer.

I agree. Make it a two man rotation like it was with Deuce and Reggie.

Like some Gump on here said, it's in our best interest to let him earn his $35 million contract that some other team will be stuck with. It'll take him five years to learn their system, too.

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Mark Ingram is our DeMarco Murray

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Wow! Wait...what?

Let's keep things in perspective. Green Bay has the worst rush defense in the league and Carolina is not ahead of them by much. Regardless of who's in the backfield, we should be able to run against those two teams.

No doubt this has been Ingram's best consecutive game performance in four years but there wasn't much to compare it to. He had 100 yards on 30 carries so slightly more than 3 YPC. His second run was 19 yards so carries 3-30 he averaged 2.78 YPC.

He had only one reception and there was a reason. Go back and watch the tape and you'll see he often didn't create space to give Drew an option. He also missed several blocks which led to Brees being sacked an/or hit.

His main contribution was holding on to the ball and running down the clock. This allowed the passing game to do what it's good at. He had 44 yards in the first half and 56 in the second. That's hardly a case for wearing out the defense.

This team will still need Thomas for his ability to block and catch. Pretending Ingram is D. Murray (7.4 YPC & 4 receptions last weekend) is a fantasy.

Root for the kid and the Saints but don't let your judgment be distorted. We just played two bad rush defenses...AND Ingram is in a contract year. He's a quality player but not a stud. Two games do not erase 3+ years of nothing.

its a blessing meaning mark is getting more confidence and swag which is good.

Honestly last night, we probably still would have had same yards but it would have been like 62, 28, 10 or so yards wise broke up so it feels better all combined for 100 in one back.

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a lot of it has been about our commitment and focus on the run game since the end of last season/playoffs that has continued into this year

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This. Ingram is obviously an important piece to this team, but the guy has real trouble staying healthy. He got injured again last night and if there is anything he has proven as a Saints it is that he can't carry the load by himself for an extended part of the season.

I would love to see Ingram continue to get around 20 carries per game with the Saints still giving the backs 35 touches overall much like the past 2 games. Thomas is one of the best (if not the best) screen pass back in the league.

I love the attitude and passion Ingram brings to the field for the Saints. I really hope he can stay healthy.

It was a blessing in disguise last year when PT was out. It showed us what Ingram could do as "the man", instead of having him in for running plays 3 out of 4 snaps and telegraphing it to the world.

He's only 24, low tread on his tires, and I say run him. Dallas is running DeMarco and they've had their best start in years. We run Ingram like they run DeMarco and we won decisively against a divsion opponent and one of the hottest teams in the league at the time. That isn't a coincidence