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Deepwater Horizon left a 1200 square mile "bathtub ring" on the GoM floor
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:36 pm
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:03 pm to Jim Rockford
If people realized how much oil naturally seeped out of the ground in the GOM then they would realize how much of a non issue this is.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:50 pm to STEVED00
quote:According to the link, about 1.4 million barrels a year, which is less than the 2.6 - 4.2 million barrels estimated to have been spilled in a single area in a short amount of time by BP.
If people realized how much oil naturally seeped out of the ground in the GOM then they would realize how much of a non issue this is.
I also think that companies like BP wouldn't even let the public know about gushers like that one if they don't happen to blow up the rig at the same time.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:26 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I also think that companies like BP wouldn't even let the public know about gushers like that one if they don't happen to blow up the rig at the same time.
That happens with people anywhere and anytime, has nothing to do in particular with "companies like BP".
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:30 pm to foshizzle
quote:Agreed, but I would have a tough time being the person in charge of a company that would do it. The workers probably assume it isn't very damaging.
That happens with people anywhere and anytime, has nothing to do in particular with "companies like BP".
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:44 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
ink that companies like BP wouldn't even let the public know about gushers like that one if they don't happen to blow up the rig at the same time
O lord... kinda hard to hide a 'gusher'
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:48 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
the workers assume its not very damaging
Lol ....wut? What is that supposed to even mean? Pls explain
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:54 pm to mmcgrath
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The workers probably assume it isn't very damaging.
They would know good and damn well what was going on and would be trying very hard to make sure the hammer of blame didn't fall on them personally.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:54 pm to foshizzle
quote:
That happens with people anywhere and anytime, has nothing to do in particular with "companies like BP".
What's your point?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:58 pm to STEVED00
quote:And if Macondo had been diffused over the entire GoM seafloor, you might have a point.
If people realized how much oil naturally seeped out of the ground in the GOM then they would realize how much of a non issue this is.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:09 am to STEVED00
What oil company do you work for?
There is a difference between x barrels seeping out over an entire year over the entire GOM, vs an addition 3x blasting out in 3 months time over a very small percentage of the GOM.
I don't think the blowout is the end of the world, but to assume it's a "non-issue" is nuts.
There is a difference between x barrels seeping out over an entire year over the entire GOM, vs an addition 3x blasting out in 3 months time over a very small percentage of the GOM.
I don't think the blowout is the end of the world, but to assume it's a "non-issue" is nuts.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:01 am to Jim Rockford
quote:FWIW, this is a classic propaganda technique. Straight out of Bernays.
"bathtub ring"
Hijack: I think Bernays' book Propaganda Should be required reading in high school. T so help with critical thinking and sniffing media (and of course) advertising bullshirt. Watching/reading news becomes like a bad toupee. Once you see it, you can't not see it
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:03 am to STEVED00
quote:
If people realized how much oil naturally seeped out of the ground in the GOM then they would realize how much of a non issue this is.
Christ this is such a dumb comparison. Natural seep and a gusher have nothing in common.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:11 am to STEVED00
I really don't like to call people stupid but.
BP Oil Spill = 4.2 million barrels over 1,200 SM's
Natural seepage = 1.2 million barrels over 617,800 SM's
You must work for BP?
BP Oil Spill = 4.2 million barrels over 1,200 SM's
Natural seepage = 1.2 million barrels over 617,800 SM's
You must work for BP?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:12 am to AUin02
Let me do the math here:
617,800 sq miles versus 1200 sq miles
617,800 sq miles = estimated 1.4 million barrels
1200 sq miles = estimated 2.6-4.2 million barrels
Yup this proves that BP didn't do any damage.
617,800 sq miles versus 1200 sq miles
617,800 sq miles = estimated 1.4 million barrels
1200 sq miles = estimated 2.6-4.2 million barrels
Yup this proves that BP didn't do any damage.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:15 am to ihometiger
I think it would equate to about 1.8 billion barrels needing to be spilled by natural seepage to equal BP's "accident"
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:15 am to lsuroadie
quote:
O lord... kinda hard to hide a 'gusher'
quote:quote:Lol ....wut? What is that supposed to even mean? Pls explain
the workers assume its not very damaging
It's pretty easy to hide a gusher under a mile of water. The oil would naturally disperse and of course that could be helped along with chemical dispersents.
As for the workers, they may be under the impression that small gushers aren't really damaging to the environment, following the "natural seepage" meme from above.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:16 am to mmcgrath
quote:And you'd be wrong.
I also think that companies like BP wouldn't even let the public know about gushers like that one if they don't happen to blow up the rig at the same time.
Anything over 1-barrel must be reported to MMS regional. See 30 CFR, 254.46. Every operator in the gulf receives education on this, as well.
Generally, the MMS (now BOEMWTF) doesn't take serious action on such small spills when reported correctly. Woe unto you if you know about it, don't report it, and get caught. They have historically shown little mercy in those cases.
As for larger spills... Can't really hide them. A gallon of oil can make a 100yd sheen that someone in a helo is going to see and almost assuredly report. See above. There absolutely no way a spill the size of Macondo could have gone undetected.
There is little incentive to not losing oil overboard. And little incentive to hide it.
Just curious, why would you presume operators want pollute?
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 10:17 am
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:28 am to mmcgrath
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It's pretty easy to hide a gusher under a mile of water. The oil would naturally disperse and of course that could be helped along with chemical dispersents.
are you flat out stupid? are you telling me an oil company with drilling operations in deepwater would "hide" a blowout? anything you say, write, think on operations in the GOM from this point forward should be discredited by every person on TD.
First off, you can't hide a blowout. if a drilling rig takes a kick it's coming to see you on the surface. that immediately puts every person, and every service support person's life at risk. it would make it back to shore faster than....
it's so laughable you would even suggest it. what would the oil company do? just pull up the riser, LMRP, pull off location and call it a day?
you're about talking about literally thousands of people knowing about a rig's operations and you think they could hide that, or even WANT to? joke. quote:again, a laughable absurdity. every worker in the GOM knows exactly the damage a 'gusher' would do. in fact your pretty insulting, borderline drive by hack who doesn't know WTF your talking about.
As for the workers, they may be under the impression that small gushers aren't really damaging to the environment
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:30 am to Taxing Authority
quote:That would hardly be notifying the public and when they report a gusher for a few hours instead of one that went on for a week, who would know then?
And you'd be wrong.
Anything over 1-barrel must be reported to MMS regional. See 30 CFR, 254.46. Every operator in the gulf receives education on this, as well.
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