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re: The Oregonian girl who was going to commit suicide because of her illness...
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:37 pm to pooponsaban
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:37 pm to pooponsaban
My apologies for appearing to some to sound like an insensitive a-hole.
My wife's father is still relatively young, and was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer recently. The medical bills are killing them, and my mother in law will never see a day without being in debt.
He's going to die, and refuses to even let us and his other child pay for him to take a dream vacation with his wife, much less start soliciting donations from the general public.
Also, I've taken my child to Disney World and stood in line next to families with Make-A-Wish shirts on. That's a better donation than sending a 29-year old on a Sonoma wine tour or to the Grand Canyon.
My wife's father is still relatively young, and was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer recently. The medical bills are killing them, and my mother in law will never see a day without being in debt.
He's going to die, and refuses to even let us and his other child pay for him to take a dream vacation with his wife, much less start soliciting donations from the general public.
Also, I've taken my child to Disney World and stood in line next to families with Make-A-Wish shirts on. That's a better donation than sending a 29-year old on a Sonoma wine tour or to the Grand Canyon.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:38 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Did they arrest Kurt Cobain?
The cops are still piecing together the evidence.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:38 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I may have a little sympathy for them. They donated money under false pretenses, which constitutes fraud.
1. She claimed she would kill herself on a certain date, she announced this to the world via numerous media outlets.
2. Potential donors decided that they believed in her right to do so, and by donating money to her cause then the dignified suicide agenda would gain further traction, and their money would go to something they truly believed in.
3. She decided not to kill herself.
4. That's fraud
Would you feel slighted if you gave money to United Way and they said we are going to stop building houses for poor people today?
So far, all that's changed is the date, which in the grand scheme of the overall story, isn't a big deal. She's still going to kill herself when she feels like the pain isn't worth fighting through. Now if she somehow miraculously recovers, then it's a fraudulent story.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:39 pm to Clyde Tipton
I guess those "right to die" people are pretty pissed right about now.
ETA: All of the people bitching: you KNOW she is still going to die, right? I mean, she didn't lie about the brain tumor. She won't see this same time next year. Calm the frick down.
ETA: All of the people bitching: you KNOW she is still going to die, right? I mean, she didn't lie about the brain tumor. She won't see this same time next year. Calm the frick down.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:39 pm to LSUBoo
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al. She's still going to kill herself when she feels like the pain isn't worth fighting through.
So she says. I'm not inclined to take her at her word.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:39 pm to Yellerhammer5
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The cops are still piecing together the evidence.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:40 pm to jmcs68
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That's kinda like the bum off of College Dr. People give him money left and right. They don't have a clue what's he spending it on. They do it because their heart was in the right place.
They do it because they are morons and don't realize that is not helping him...all it does is allow him to get his drugs or alcohol. They are homeless for a reason. That reason is generally because they exhausted all help from friends and family. This doesn't go for the mentally ill.
Plenty of innocent children more deserving than some alcoholic bum on college drive.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:40 pm to LSUBoo
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So far, all that's changed is the date, which in the grand scheme of the overall story, isn't a big deal.
It's a really big deal actually. We are all going to die...on some date at some time.
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She's still going to kill herself when she feels like the pain isn't worth fighting through.
Based on what? Her statements?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:40 pm to Orchid
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So she says. I'm not inclined to take her at her word.
If she doesn't follow through with it, she's a fraud. The date is inconsequential to me, it was stupid of her to set a date in the first place.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:41 pm to pooponsaban
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I feel for her
So do I and I guess that's where my comments are coming from.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:42 pm to LSUBoo
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If she doesn't follow through with it, she's a fraud
Not everyone has it in them to go through with it. Plenty of people get the script but never use it.
My step dads brother couldn't do it. Luckily for him he went quick.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:44 pm to LSUBoo
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If she doesn't follow through with it, she's a fraud.
Holy shite
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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because they are morons
Who just so happen to have big hearts.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:45 pm to lsuwontonwrap
quote:quote:Holy shite
If she doesn't follow through with it, she's a fraud.
What?
The entire point is to bring attention to the "death with dignity" or "right to die" or whatever the cause is that allows her to choose to end her own life.
If she gets all this attention for the cause, then doesn't even go through with it, that's pretty fraudulent, don't you think?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:46 pm to LSUintheNW
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Not everyone has it in them to go through with it. Plenty of people get the script but never use it.
and this is 100% ok............for people who don't publicize that they are going to do it, and receive donations to do so.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:47 pm to LSUBoo
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Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain (adjectival form fraudulent; to defraud is the verb).
I'd say you are correct, sir
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:48 pm to jmcs68
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Who just so happen to have big hearts.
doing nothing to fix the problem or actually help the problem. I have a big heart but i am not an idiot and won't enable someone who doesn't deserve the help as much as someone who does.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:48 pm to LSUBoo
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If she gets all this attention for the cause, then doesn't even go through with it, that's pretty fraudulent, don't you think?
But it's life and death. You're saying she should kill herself just to appease a bunch of strangers? Please.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:49 pm to jmcs68
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And? She's still a 29 year old terminally ill woman. And you're total dick.
Agreed.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:50 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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But it's life and death. You're saying she should kill herself just to appease a bunch of strangers? Please.
Fine, she doesn't have to kill herself.
Return the money.
Or donate the same amount to kids fighting to stay ALIVE
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