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re: Why aren't there more diesel 1/2 ton pickups in the USA?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:29 pm to roadGator
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:29 pm to roadGator
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quote: the EGR additions are killing the longevity of the engines, You got more details on this. It seems weird because the DEF fluid is injected into the exhaust. How would that affect the engine's longevity?
You might want to look up how Exhaust Gas Recycle works
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:32 pm to bamarep
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Also, in my ventures in Asia several years back, I saw a little 3cyl diesel passenger car made by Ford that got over 60 MPG. Ask yourself why it's not sold here.
Probably b.c ford doesn't think it will sell overhere. Or safety standards.
My next vehicle will be a diesel. I wanted to get one this time around but the wife nixed it.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:13 pm to WeeWee
Several reasons for it, almost all of which can be traced back to the EPA on some level.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:39 pm to WeeWee
Emissions and added weight effects safety standards. GMC introducing diesel colorados in 2015 or 16 and Chrysler is doing the same with the dodge 1500
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:00 pm to geauxcats10
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SCR is a so-called "aftertreatment" technology, which means that it destroys harmful emissions after combustion. This gives manufacturers greater scope to tune engines to improve fuel efficiency and increase power. Owners of SCR vehicles enjoy greater reliability and longer oil change intervals, which add up to impressive operating cost savings over the life of the vehicle.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:17 am to bamarep
quote:this is really poor logic. In an FCCU, there is a considerable portion of the fractionation that will be gasoline. But just the same as gasoline, it requires hydro treating to be available for market. In a Hydrocracker, a larger percentage of the fractionation is diesel, and kerosene, yet I wouldn't call gasoline a byproduct of diesel production.
diesel fuel, which is a byproduct of gasoline production from crude
Think of it this way. Without hydro cracking, the diesel production in this country is limited by the demand for gasoline and heating oil/kerosene as diesel shares common compounds with these two mixtures. They are not going to overproduce gasoline and kerosene and ruin their profits, just so the diesel guys can have fatter wallets. As diesel makes up a far lower percentage of the FCCU run, it has a high demand at the market.
Hydrocrackers are built for just this reason, but not every refinery has them. FCCU is the norm.
Ebulating bed reactions will further help the diesel market, but that is a massive production cost to overcome.
As for who is to blame? EPA is the answer. Sulfur constraints have gotten so tight that many multi million dollar sulfur reduction units are having to be built and maintained. You now have to process and dispose if this extra sulfur as well. Even if you try to make it a viable sale, you now have to make loading docks, staff the docks, and support it with a procurement team.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:24 am to bamarep
As soon as jeep has a diesel I'm all in.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:45 am to chesty
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chesty Why aren't there more diesel 1/2 ton pickups in the USA? As soon as jeep has a diesel I'm all in.
I think a diesel wrangler would be disappointing.....the weight at the front end would sink the small oft print like a stone. Jeep SUVs would be nice though.....
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:11 am to Haplochrom
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diesel fuel, which is a byproduct of gasoline production from crude
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yet I wouldn't call gasoline a byproduct of diesel production
Did you even read what you quoted?
EPA has made all fuel ridiculuously more expensive to make the greenies feel good.
On another note, the Ram 1500 1/2 ton diesel has the same engine that Fiat has been using in European vehicles.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:35 am to WeeWee
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actually not true. I read an article that if you drive more than 10,000miles/yr the clean diesel is more bang for your buck.
The price premiums in 1/2 trucks are more than $2,000. I think this article discusses cars. Maybe it relates to trucks too.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:55 am to Sorrento Muddbugs
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You working in Trinidad ?
med school in St. Maarten
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:58 am to chesty
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As soon as jeep has a diesel I'm all in.
They already have a diesel grand cherokee.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:14 am to WeeWee
Strong speculation that the same 3.0 diesel will be in the Wranglers soon. Its about the same weight as the very popular Hemi conversion but with more torque.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:17 am to lsu13lsu
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I think this article discusses cars.
It does relate to cars
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The price premiums in 1/2 trucks are more than $2,000.
The clean diesel cars also cost more, I think.
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Maybe it relates to trucks too.
probably
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:24 am to Haplochrom
yea diesel will likely only become a worse deal than it already has, of course it's because of the govt fuking up something that was working fine. Govt needs an excuse to exist and fuking sh*t up that was working seems to be the most self sustaining thing they can do.
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