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re: I can't watch a Woody Allen movie any more
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:53 pm to Melvin
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:53 pm to Melvin
quote:You don't need a conviction in the NFL.
Not if they weren't convicted.
ETA: Are you saying if Woody Allen was a football coach, he'd still be coaching today?
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:56 pm to DelU249
Maybe. I don't know. One fact is that she was not his adopted daughter. That part is in reality not to the letter as you described. It's a (slightly) fabricated detail that makes him look worse in the situation. It just makes me a little doubtful of anyone trying to bury him when things like that are used.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:59 pm to Peazey
he lived with farrow and these children...she's adopted (ok by farrow)
woody and soon yi first met when she was 8 (oldest as her age is not specifically known) and they lived together for over 10 years...and then mia farrow finds nude photos of her...dude, weird as shite.
unusual, and relevant to the accusations against him. We're not in court. Would you leave your daughter with woody allen?
I'm not even saying he should be in jail, I'm saying I think he's a child molester and as such cannot watch his movies
woody and soon yi first met when she was 8 (oldest as her age is not specifically known) and they lived together for over 10 years...and then mia farrow finds nude photos of her...dude, weird as shite.
unusual, and relevant to the accusations against him. We're not in court. Would you leave your daughter with woody allen?
I'm not even saying he should be in jail, I'm saying I think he's a child molester and as such cannot watch his movies
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:00 pm to UL-SabanRival
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theoretical possibility that she is lying or has been conditioned.
it's really neither. people with FMS legit think these things happened to them
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The crusade part actually makes it more convincing to me. What else would someone do if they knew a person was guilty? They don't have cum-stained onesies to enter into evidence. All they have is continued disgust over the fact that he is praised and that their repeated accusations have fallen on willingly deaf ears.
but i posted disputed (and just as biased) accounts of the same stuff. that's how life works
there are people who still believe, today as adults, they were molested by satanic cults, because of similar "crusades"
fascinating stuff
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:12 pm to DelU249
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Would you leave your daughter with woody allen?
No, I would not leave any young family members with the creep. It's weird shite all around.
It's just that it seems like a mudslinging situation of everyone going back and forth. When that happens, I just have a tendency to think that everyone is full of shite. What kind of crazy shite could Farrow have been getting up to for her to have tolerated this situation all along? Was it only selfish reasons that led to the split with Allen?
I don't really believe anything that either of them say. And as a result I'm doubtful of what the kids say because they may have been "brainwashed" at a young age by either parent.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:17 pm to Peazey
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What kind of crazy shite could Farrow have been getting up to for her to have tolerated this situation all along
$$$$, but then she realized he was involved with a legal soon yi and confronted him (no one will know what was said, but she filed for divorce after that)
don't get me wrong, I think farrow is a huge piece of shite too, only until it impacted her did she out him
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's really neither. people with FMS legit think these things happened to them
So again, you're just talking out of your arse. You can accuse any witness of this, but it doesn't have any credence unless you can produce a shred of evidence to support something that is really just a whimsical theory of yours, fascinating or not.
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but i posted disputed (and just as biased) accounts of the same stuff. that's how life works
"That's just how life works, your honor. Let my client go." Yeah, good luck.
Attempting to discredit people through use of sensational terms such as "crusade" isn't going to work out for you either, counselor. Creative terminology or not, it doesn't alter the fact that their story has not changed, whereas Allen's has. And again, their personal stake in the matter is infinitesimal compared to what he would stand to lose.
But like Fox said, we don't know what happened, and he was never convicted. Personally, I think the guy is a child molester, and vague, pseudo-psychic theories as to the mental state of his accusers won't sway that opinion.
What is it with you and the satanists? Did you recently join a cult? You know, it's all fun and orgies until the crazies start to get bored with it.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:42 pm to UL-SabanRival
The fact that they were impressionable children with weak developing minds, and there have been some implications of Farrow being manipulative and dishonest gives some reason to think that the false memory thing might be at play in this situation.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:48 pm to Peazey
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The fact that they were impressionable children with weak developing minds
if I were going to use this exact sentence, it would probably be the lead in to me explaining why allen marrying soon yi is unsettling
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and there have been some implications of Farrow being manipulative and dishonest
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1. Mia never went to the police about the allegation of sexual abuse. Her lawyer told her on August 5, 1992, to take the seven-year-old Dylan to a pediatrician, who was bound by law to report Dylan’s story of sexual violation to law enforcement and did so on August 6.
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Allen subsequently lost four exhaustive court battles—a lawsuit, a disciplinary charge against the prosecutor, and two appeals—and was made to pay more than $1 million in Mia’s legal fees. Judge Elliott Wilk, the presiding judge in Allen’s custody suit against Farrow, concluded that there is “no credible evidence to support Mr. Allen’s contention that Ms. Farrow coached Dylan or that Ms. Farrow acted upon a desire for revenge against him for seducing Soon-Yi."
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5. In his 33-page decision, Judge Wilk found that Mr. Allen’s behavior toward Dylan was “grossly inappropriate and that measures must be taken to protect her.” The judge also recounts Farrow’s misgivings regarding Allen’s behavior toward Dylan from the time she was between two and three years old. According to the judge’s decision, Farrow told Allen, “You look at her [Dylan] in a sexual way. You fondled her . . . You don’t give her any breathing room. You look at her when she’s naked.”
The judge said this in a custody battle...not a civil suit, criminal trial...custody
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:02 pm to DelU249
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if I were going to use this exact sentence, it would probably be the lead in to me explaining why allen marrying soon yi is unsettling
Oh yea, I definitely think he's a creep for it. I just am not assuming that Farrow is any better.
All the stuff about the judges opinion doesn't look good for Allen. I just don't know if it is completely damning. It may have to a large degree have been based off of the stated view of Farrow and a manipulated Dylan. One of the other sons, Moses, has given a statement that implicates that Farrow was extremely manipulative.
I don't really know what the "no signs of being coached" statement means. I guess it means that her story is consistent and hasn't changed. I don't know how much of a science that it.
Maybe if I read all the evidence of the case and proceedings, I would be more inclined to fall more in line with your view. I'm just not about to make a huge research project out of this. Either way Allen doesn't look good. With limited information, I just see Farrow being queen manipulator as a real possibility.
ETA: Maybe my position would be more understandable if I explained that I'm prone to doubt. I'm a natural skeptic.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:12 pm to Peazey
that's pretty much what I've been saying with the exception that I believe farrow is a piece of shite for a different reason
Posted on 10/30/14 at 3:41 pm to Rex
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Is it OK to enjoy productions by people you despise?
I suppose its OK. However, if I don't care for an actor or director I chose not to watch products they're part of. My choice. Somehow I will survive not seeing a single Bourne film.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 3:48 pm to Rex
Woody probably did some fricked up shite. Nothing can stop me from enjoying Annie Hall.
Polanski is a scumbag. That doesn't make Chinatown any less of a masterpiece.
Polanski is a scumbag. That doesn't make Chinatown any less of a masterpiece.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:07 pm to DelU249
So this post is a perfect example of how multiple small pieces of false information accumulate over the years, and get passed on because they support the narrative that people want to believe, or justify someones story or suspicion or pre-existing feelings etc. I think "lore" is a good term for this.
False.
Andre Previn is and was always Soon-Yi's only father or paternal figure. Even Mia has admitted in testimony that Soonyi and Woody had little contact while she was growing up. Soon-yi doesnt even remember ever having a conversation with him.
just not true. Never lived together.
While none of these things exonerates him by itself, the cumulative effect of small lies and well-intentioned misinformation is falsely damning. Don't believe everything you read.
Not to mention, we are talking about a >20 year relationship that has produced nothing but a happy family including prosperous children, a content wife and lots of great creative work. Does that sound like a habitual child molester? Where are all these abused children?
It's time to face the fact that we were all jumping to some false conclusions when everybody freaked out about WA back in the early 90s. The tabloid culture is powerful that way. It was weird (very weird) at the time, and our baser selves took that weirdness and ran with it.
We were wrong. A decades long successful marriage proves it.
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he lived with farrow and these children
False.
Andre Previn is and was always Soon-Yi's only father or paternal figure. Even Mia has admitted in testimony that Soonyi and Woody had little contact while she was growing up. Soon-yi doesnt even remember ever having a conversation with him.
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and they lived together for over 10 years
just not true. Never lived together.
While none of these things exonerates him by itself, the cumulative effect of small lies and well-intentioned misinformation is falsely damning. Don't believe everything you read.
Not to mention, we are talking about a >20 year relationship that has produced nothing but a happy family including prosperous children, a content wife and lots of great creative work. Does that sound like a habitual child molester? Where are all these abused children?
It's time to face the fact that we were all jumping to some false conclusions when everybody freaked out about WA back in the early 90s. The tabloid culture is powerful that way. It was weird (very weird) at the time, and our baser selves took that weirdness and ran with it.
We were wrong. A decades long successful marriage proves it.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:22 pm to TigerRad
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Is it OK to enjoy productions by people you despise?
yes
Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:42 pm to TigerRad
Woody, is that you?
Yeah, the tabloids got to the courts and numerous people involved. You're excuse making is pathetic.
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We were wrong. A decades long successful marriage proves it.
Yeah, the tabloids got to the courts and numerous people involved. You're excuse making is pathetic.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:12 pm to UL-SabanRival
i try to know about artists private lives b.c I cannot enjoy their art knowing they are POSs
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:38 pm to Hawkeye95
I can still enjoy their work. I was just arguing the merits of the case against Allen. shite, I became a huge fan at the tender age of about 9, when I was home sick and a mini-marathon came on TV. Having said that, I'm still glad Woody wasn't around at the time.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:39 pm to Hawkeye95
I want to slap Matt Damon when he gets political. Not that he's that wrong about his politics, but that he's suck a pussy in the way he whines about the world.
He's great in movies though.
He's great in movies though.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 5:43 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:He doesn't rape children. In his own way, he wants to save them. Not even close to the same thing.
Matt Damon
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