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re: Judge Ron Ware is lower than a piece of dog shite Warning: NSFW/NSFL
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:46 pm to colorchangintiger
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:46 pm to colorchangintiger
I have found that most people would be astounded by some of the things judges get away with on a regular basis in their courtrooms with very very little accountability.
There is the judicial review board but they don't do nearly enough.
There is the judicial review board but they don't do nearly enough.
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:58 pm to Paluka
Your post illustrates your ignorance of the legal system. It's quite common for judges to "suspend the balance" of a sentence without muddying the record by giving a split sentence. That doesn't mean they didn't take into account the amount of time already served.
In this case, it seems as though she had little time in. I was simply asking as bond information was not in the original article. As for your being infuriated, that's your prerogative. However, it doesn't excuse your behaving like a jackass.
In this case, it seems as though she had little time in. I was simply asking as bond information was not in the original article. As for your being infuriated, that's your prerogative. However, it doesn't excuse your behaving like a jackass.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:06 pm to Joshjrn
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Your post illustrates your ignorance of the legal system. It's quite common for judges to "suspend the balance" of a sentence without muddying the record by giving a split sentence. That doesn't mean they didn't take into account the amount of time already served.
You have no idea how wrong you are, dumbass. I work in the criminal justice system daily. I know how the system works. I work with felons daily. Go smoke some pot and believe in your nonsense.
I appreciate your permission to be a dick to you. I'm tired of so many so-called discussions devoid if common sense.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:13 pm to Paluka
Work with felons. Interesting turn of phrase. So what, exactly, do you do?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:17 pm to Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:18 pm to Joshjrn
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Posted by Joshjrn Work with felons. Interesting turn of phrase. So what, exactly, do you do?
I've said before on this board. Take a guess, Josh. I'm curious about your assumptions.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:20 pm to Politiceaux
Worth quite a bit. That's why I asked 
It's possible that there were profound mitigating circumstances, or extensive mitigation provided, that swayed the judge. Or he's an idiot. It's hard to say with how little information we have.
It's possible that there were profound mitigating circumstances, or extensive mitigation provided, that swayed the judge. Or he's an idiot. It's hard to say with how little information we have.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:23 pm to Paluka
First histrionics and now guessing games. You really are a treat. Say or don't. It doesn't much matter to me. Doesn't change the fact that your assertion that a judge that doesn't go through the effort of splitting a sentence didn't take their length of incarceration into account is absurd. Or the fact that I don't smoke pot and you're clutching at ad hominem straws.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:24 pm to Joshjrn
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Do we have any information concerning whether she bonded out?
I'm guessing she wasn't in jail, since she moved to Florida between arrest and trial.
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Lan Le lives in Florida now and will be allowed to undergo probation supervision in that state
I only thought Judge Ware was crap before I read this article. He's a whole lot worse than any description I could come up with.
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Judge Ware, who convicted Le of second degree cruelty to a juvenile, announced he would not put her in prison-- because he believes it would serve no purpose. He says the former foster parent still has a lot of good to do.
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Several deputies walked out during sentencing and clearly, Ware was not pleased. He said from the bench that he was doing what he thought was right and didn't care who likes it or not.
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Those who left during the sentencing have been ordered to come before Judge Ware on Friday morning.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:29 pm to TigerTattle
The original article wasn't clear on when exactly she was sentenced, so it was possible that she had moved after sentencing but before the article ran. You'd be surprised how long it sometimes takes for the media to catch wind of things like this.
That said, the issue has now been cleared up. Sounds like she didn't do much time at all before bonding.
That said, the issue has now been cleared up. Sounds like she didn't do much time at all before bonding.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:32 pm to Joshjrn
This case was a bench trial. The boyfriend told the cops (on tape) that she did it. During trial he recanted and said he couldn't remember. She was out on bail the entire time and now lives in Florida. The Judge seems to have just wanted her gone without any significant consequences.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:33 pm to Joshjrn
Apparently Ware was the director of the Public Defenders office before he was a Judge. That makes a lot of sense now.
Pic of the judge.
Pic of the judge.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:37 pm to Joshjrn
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Doesn't change the fact that your assertion that a judge that doesn't go through the effort of splitting a sentence didn't take their length of incarceration into account is absurd.
I never made any such assertion. You read and assumed.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:40 pm to Paluka
I have the utomost respect for what you do. When I file for a Sanity, I know precisely the level of crazy I'm laying on your doorstep. When I said you were ignorant of the legal system, I meant more specifically sentencing, which I imagine you don't witness very often. Trust me when I say that I have clients who have done significant stretches of time, sometimes only months short of the maximum, and the judge will give a sentence that will read as "X years, credit for time served, suspend the balance and place on active supervised probation." It's disingenuous in those situations to claim that the judge didn't "require" jail time. In many of those cases, the judge would have required a split sentence had they not served that chunk of time already. It's just cleaner to do it that way.
Anyway, it sounds like you know far more about this case than I do. Being utterly ignorant, I was asking what I thought was a fairly innocuous question. I wasn't expecting the snark, thus my response
Anyway, it sounds like you know far more about this case than I do. Being utterly ignorant, I was asking what I thought was a fairly innocuous question. I wasn't expecting the snark, thus my response
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:42 pm to Paluka
When I inquired about time served prior to sentencing, you responded that the OP was concerned only with the sentence the judge actually handed down. It was a requisite implication, hardly an assumption.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:42 pm to Joshjrn
It's all good. This case rubs me the wrong way. You'd be surprised how often I'm in court.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:44 pm to Sentrius
Possibly, but not necessarily. Some of the harshest sentencers I know are former defense attorneys/public defenders.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:03 am to Paluka
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You have no idea how wrong you are, dumbass. I work in the criminal justice system daily. I know how the system works. I work with felons daily. Go smoke some pot and believe in your nonsense.
well that escalated quickly
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:36 am to lsu480
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There is a special place in hell for people that turn their kids into ghetto lobsters as a form of punishment.
Sad part is the child isn't even hers. The poor kid is a foster child. Imagine being shuttled from house to house being treated like this? Like being an orphan isn't enough.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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well that escalated quickly
Right?
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