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Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:39 pm to DelU249
TX needs to stop violating his civil rights and deliver the voting machine to his house so he doesn't have to go out of his way to vote.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:42 pm to upgrayedd
he makes $20 a day collecting cans, he's either homeless or getting cheese, and you can't get cheese without
IDENTIFICATION
just blows my mind, it takes such little effort to get an ID.
I thought liberals loved laws that encourage better choices and a better lifestyle...well thanks to this law, eric may have a copy of his birth certificate and be able to prove his identity at any time.
IDENTIFICATION
just blows my mind, it takes such little effort to get an ID.
I thought liberals loved laws that encourage better choices and a better lifestyle...well thanks to this law, eric may have a copy of his birth certificate and be able to prove his identity at any time.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:43 pm to DelU249
Bless his disenfranchised heart.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:45 pm to bamarep
this law doesn't disenfranchise people at all, he can't afford time from his busy schedule to make the extra trip to records for his birth certificate, then why would he take the time to get up and go vote
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:47 pm to DelU249
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this law doesn't disenfranchise people at all, he can't afford time from his busy schedule to make the extra trip to records for his birth certificate, then why would he take the time to get up and go vote
shite, how much time in his busy schedule did he give up to be utilized as a pawn for this stupid arse article?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:49 pm to DelU249
quote:Okay, so here's my question: Why do we need voter registration and photo ID laws? It's all good sport to laugh at a guy who doesn't have a pot to piss in for saying $23 for a birth certificate (and the opportunity cost of the various bus trips) is onerous, but he actually did it and still ended up in bureaucratic purgatory.
The outcome was perhaps predictable by now: the birth certificate wasn’t up to scratch either. When he took it to the DPS (another three buses there, three buses back, another two hours waiting in line) they told him that the name on the birth certificate didn’t match the name on his voter registration card. The birth certificate has him down as Eric Caruthers – his mother’s maiden name – even though his parents were married at the time he was born.
Let's assume for the sake of this question that I agree a photo ID requirement is justified. What, then, is the purpose of a separate voter registration system? Why not allow voting based on the ID alone like in ND? Or at the very least, couple the photo ID with provisions for same-day registration?
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:51 pm to DelU249
I don't care that he can't vote.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Anyone that is so far removed from being a functional member of society that they don't have an ID isn't a loss at the voting booth as far as I'm concerned.
He could easily have gotten an ID in the time it took him to be exploited for the purposes of the article.
On second thought, why didn't the "caring" libs that exploited him for this article give him a lift to get an ID if they are so concerned about his being disenfranchised?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Anyone that is so far removed from being a functional member of society that they don't have an ID isn't a loss at the voting booth as far as I'm concerned.
He could easily have gotten an ID in the time it took him to be exploited for the purposes of the article.
On second thought, why didn't the "caring" libs that exploited him for this article give him a lift to get an ID if they are so concerned about his being disenfranchised?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:52 pm to Iosh
I'm not laughing at his circumstances, I'm saying he isn't disenfranchised
$20 a day picking up cans...with an ID, he can get a better job...anything that's not picking up cans
to make sure you don't show up at various spots and vote multiple times...you get one ticket, one vote...that's it
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and the opportunity cost of the various bus trips
$20 a day picking up cans...with an ID, he can get a better job...anything that's not picking up cans
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What, then, is the purpose of a separate voter registration system?
to make sure you don't show up at various spots and vote multiple times...you get one ticket, one vote...that's it
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:54 pm to DelU249
Luckily he won't have to pay for the bus ride to the polls.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:56 pm to Iosh
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hat, then, is the purpose of a separate voter registration system?
to get democrats not to vote. its really that simple.
the whole thing is wrapped in "fraud" concerns but the reality is they want to make it harder for democrats to vote, especially marginal voters. They know their constituents will go through these hurdles to vote but marginally attached voters won't.
I find it quite unamerican, and just outright trashy.
We can't win the war of ideas, so instead let's rig the system so we win anyway.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:57 pm to Scoop
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Anyone that is so far removed from being a functional member of society that they don't have an ID isn't a loss at the voting booth as far as I'm concerned.
you hate to see people so down, but yeah...can't even get an ID, get fricked. Things are looking up for him...he'll have an ID, a birth certificate, he can now be hired to do something that pays better than $20 a day. Doesn't stop our yard guy Romero, who I'm pretty sure doesn't have an ID. He doesn't even speak English.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:01 pm to Hawkeye95
So you admit that all of the worthless, non contributing people that don't have an ID in our society are Democrats?
That's what you are saying, right?
If all of the worthless people are Democrats, how did Democrats win the war of ideas?
Isn't that losing everywhere except at the polls?
That's what you are saying, right?
If all of the worthless people are Democrats, how did Democrats win the war of ideas?
Isn't that losing everywhere except at the polls?
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:02 pm to Scoop
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So you admit that all of the worthless, non contributing people that don't have an ID in our society are Democrats?
I do not believe them to be worthless. But yes, they are democrats.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:03 pm to Hawkeye95
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They know their constituents will go through these hurdles to vote but marginally attached voters won't.
what are you saying here? Liberal voters are far lazier? Liberal voters tend to be "marginally attached" / LESS INFORMED VOTERS...there's no hurdles, you just go there and hand them a god damn piece of paper and they give you and id...it took me 2 minutes to go online, and get the form, fill it out, and send it to them...you can even request online that they send it to you and they also pay the postage. a couple of hours downtown and he'd have it all taken care of save for a bus trip to DPS. Lazy as shite, that's why he's collecting cans and content with $20 a day
you have no argument to support that it
1. disenfranchises voters
2. is targeted at any specific group save for non citizens of the United States
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:07 pm to Hawkeye95
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So you admit that all of the worthless, non contributing people that don't have an ID in our society are Democrats?
I do not believe them to be worthless. But yes, they are democrats.
Well thank God people that have a history of making poor decisions get to have less of a say in the leadership of our nation.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:11 pm to DelU249
So basically functional members of society that have to give up parts of their days to get such things are understood but dysfunctional people shouldn't have to waste their time with bureaucracy?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:13 pm to C
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So basically functional members of society that have to give up parts of their days to get such things are understood but dysfunctional people shouldn't have to waste their time with bureaucracy?
Yeah, why is voting seemingly the only thing democrats are interested in making LESS of a bureaucratic hassle for the general public?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:20 pm to DelU249
Why don't one of the LIBERAL POS's that pay people to vote give this guy a ride.
Why don't they get him a bus as they do on the day of voting?
Nothing but BS.
Why don't they get him a bus as they do on the day of voting?
Nothing but BS.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:22 pm to Hawkeye95
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to get democrats not to vote. its really that simple.
the whole thing is wrapped in "fraud" concerns but the reality is they want to make it harder for democrats to vote, especially marginal voters. They know their constituents will go through these hurdles to vote but marginally attached voters won't.
This is absolutely true, but it doesn't discredit the point that has been made in this thread already: Anybody so out of touch with functional society that they do not possess ANY valid form of identification has no business playing a role in electing our government representatives.
Are the reasons behind it self-serving? Absolutely. Does it constitute dirty politics? Probably. None of that changes the fact that we are better off not hearing the voices of those who don't possess any form of ID, because that is indicative of traits that we should not be propagating in our society.
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