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POST-BIRTH ABORTIONS
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:20 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:20 am
not really shocking, actually predictable
LINK
LINK
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TRENDING: MORE COLLEGE STUDENTS SUPPORT POST-BIRTH ABORTION
A trend seen by prolife activists that frequently engage college students on campuses nationwide is the growing acceptance of post-birth abortion, or killing the infant after he or she is born, campus prolife outreach leaders tell The College Fix.
Anecdotal evidence by leaders of prolife groups such as Created Equal and Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust said in interviews that not only do they see more college students willing to say they support post-birth abortion, but some students even suggest children up to 4 or 5-years-old can also be killed, because they are not yet “self aware.”
“We encounter people who think it is morally acceptable to kill babies after birth on a regular basis at almost every campus we visit,” said Mark Harrington, director of Created Equal. “While this viewpoint is still seen as shocking by most people, it is becoming increasingly popular.”
Campuses where the high school, college students, local activists and staff members of Created Equal have encountered this opinion include Purdue, University of Minnesota, and University of Central Florida. And at Ohio State earlier this year, the group captured a debate on video between one of its members and an older woman on campus who defended infanticide.
“This is the whole problem with devaluing human life at any stage—it will naturally grow to include other groups of humans; in this case, born humans as well as preborn humans,” Harrington said. “[I] talked with one young man at the University of Minnesota who thought it was alright to kill children if they were under the age of 5 years old, as he did not consider them persons until that age.”
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:23 am to KeyserSoze999
I had a professor who advocated for post birth abortions up to 6 months. His reasoning was that some mothers go into having a child thinking they can handle it, and then realize that they can't. It's more humane to kill the baby than to pass the burden onto someone else or society and have it raised in a broken household where the chances for it to succeed later in life are slimmer.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:24 am to KeyserSoze999
5 year olds??? Good god
Please lock up whoever has the viewpoint now and keep him away from children. That's some psycho child molester mindset shite there
Please lock up whoever has the viewpoint now and keep him away from children. That's some psycho child molester mindset shite there
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:24 am to goldennugget
Why don't we advocate for post birth abortions for the woman what would want this and give the baby to a family that would love and raise it.
I read this earlier and was sick to my stomach. WTF has happened to the moral attitude of our youth???
I read this earlier and was sick to my stomach. WTF has happened to the moral attitude of our youth???
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:25 am to KeyserSoze999
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Anecdotal evidence by leaders of prolife groups such as Created Equal and Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust said in interviews that not only do they see more college students willing to say they support post-birth abortion, but some students even suggest children up to 4 or 5-years-old can also be killed, because they are not yet “self aware.”
I think these campus pro-life people got trolled...hard. And you, too.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:27 am to cwill
quote:This. People are way, way, WAY too ready to believe negative things about the other side.
I think these campus pro-life people got trolled...hard. And you, too.
I should add that I'm very pro life.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:28 am to goldennugget
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I had a professor who advocated for post birth abortions up to 6 months.
Pure evil
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:28 am to KeyserSoze999
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A trend seen
=/=
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Anecdotal evidence
This is a terrible topic btw
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:28 am to KeyserSoze999
This sounds like a troll
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:30 am to KeyserSoze999
4-year-olds not self aware? My 4-year-old is smarter than most adults in the general population.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:31 am to KeyserSoze999
Our cultural values are whatever we say they are. Some people don't seem to get this. In some countries cannibalism is totally fine and not immoral.
When you understand this, that cultures and morals do not just naturally evolve, it's hard not to be a social conservative these days
When you understand this, that cultures and morals do not just naturally evolve, it's hard not to be a social conservative these days
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:33 am to genro
quote:I can agree with some aspects of that, but saying that cultures and morals are whatever we say they are by definition means social conservatism is whatever you say it is.
it's hard not to be a social conservative these days
What issues are you actually talking about?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:35 am to KeyserSoze999
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the Abortion Holocaust
i can't think of a more appropriate term
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:35 am to genro
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Our cultural values are whatever we say they are.
Yep.
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Some people don't seem to get this.
yep
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When you understand this, that cultures and morals do not just naturally evolve, it's hard not to be a social conservative these days
Nope.
If you believe in moral relativism, which appears you do, then being a social conservative makes absolutely zero sense since social conservatism is telling people what to do. And well, if you don't believe in objective value, what frame of reference do you have to say what is right or wrong?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:36 am to goldennugget
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I had a professor who advocated for post birth abortions up to 6 months.
there's no way i could've stayed in that class
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:36 am to Choctaw
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i can't think of a more appropriate term
quote:Margaret Sanger
The ministers work is also important and also he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:39 am to Hawkeye95
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then being a social conservative makes absolutely zero sense since social conservatism is telling people what to do.
like telling people "don't murder babies"? yeah...seems like a hard stance to get behind
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:39 am to Hawkeye95
quote:I don't. I make a judgment call. We should continue to believe murder is wrong, for example.
since social conservatism is telling people what to do. And well, if you don't believe in objective value, what frame of reference do you have to say what is right or wrong?
I don't understand the end-game of encouraging homosexuality, men turning into women, and baby death. Population control?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:43 am to genro
quote:Encouraging homosexuality is stupid, but I don't really see that happening anywhere or in a way large enough for it to be mentioned as an example of why being socially conservative matters.
I don't understand the end-game of encouraging homosexuality
quote:This is a mental illness, and should be treated as one.
men turning into women
quote:Should absolutely be stopped. Abortion has a place as a rare, emergency procedure in the case of a risk to the mother. I can see that as reasonable. Perhaps in cases of rape or incest, too.
baby death
quote:Should be done as a voluntary movement by all of humanity, if it needs to be done at all. Any governmental action that causes it is horrific.
Population control?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:44 am to genro
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I don't. I make a judgment call. We should continue to believe murder is wrong, for example.
then your first post was explained poorly. you just said we set our own values (which is true). If you agree that its all subjective, then how can you say what is appropriate to do or not do based on say the bible?
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We should continue to believe murder is wrong, for example.
there are plenty of ethical models which still posit murder is wrong while still believing in moral relativism. Pretty much every ethical model in the 20th century.
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I don't understand the end-game of encouraging homosexuality
I don't see that happening. What I do see is people starting to say - its ok to be gay. Cause you know what? Its ok to be gay.
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men turning into women
I don't think this is encouraged or really even accepted at this point.
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Population control?
this is a noble goal, of course the problem is that its the wrong sort of people breeding.
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