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re: Question for OT Runners
Posted on 10/31/14 at 7:30 am to jwill37
Posted on 10/31/14 at 7:30 am to jwill37
listen to you body
if it is your entire leg that is hurting, take the entire week off
sometimes rest is best
does it come after a certain mileage? your form might begin to get sloppy once your legs get tired, so that could be the issue as well
if it is your entire leg that is hurting, take the entire week off
sometimes rest is best
does it come after a certain mileage? your form might begin to get sloppy once your legs get tired, so that could be the issue as well
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 7:57 am to jwill37
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I'm winging it more than anything. I've looked at several training programs and they just seemed too easy. If I run less than 5 miles it doesn't feel like much of a workout
Sounds to me like too much too fast. Don't take this the wrong way, but most training plans are written by people with ALOT more knowledge than you when it comes to to running.
Rest, proper recovery, being able to do all three or four runs at the proper pace (long slow, tempo, interval, recovery, etc) and training blocks built into a periodization model help your body adapt and get stronger throughout the plan. You should not be able to complete a desired race at a desired pace when you start training for that race, that is why you need to train.
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It seems like most people would deal with this as first time runners.
They do...ALOT of people do. They run too much, too fast. Then, they get injured. Some come back, some don't and say "I can't run, my body just can't handle it" or "its just too bad for your legs, knees and feet etc."
The ones who find an economical way to run with proper form and a proper stride (that you knew years ago but learned how to run "wrong" over the years) are the ones who end up sticking it out.
I've been there too. Stress fracture training for my second 10k. Then posterior tibial tendinitis had me in a walking boot after my first Ironman.
It likely isn't one thing (salt, hydration, diet, etc), but rather a combination of many many factors. I would say find a plan, stick to said plan with great discipline. With your extra time, spend it on running drills and core strength. I don't mean crunches, but hip stability, glute strength, hamstring strength. Watch you tube videos on drills to help strengthen your lower body.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 8:01 am
Posted on 10/31/14 at 7:59 am to HebertFest08
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I may be uninformed, but I hope you aren't talking about literally the old school salt tabs?
Salt tabs help the body replace things that are lost in sweat. Some electrolyte drinks can get you by, but it depends on how much you sweat, how hot it is, etc.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:16 am to jwill37
It is likely not hydration or salt (see the book Waterlogged for more info). It looks like the long run is too high a percentage of total mileage. Find an actual plan and follow it. Don't worry if it looks easy. It is always better to be undertrained than overtrained.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:40 am to jwill37
So, your ran about 10 miles and your weekly total is just over half that?
First off, you are not giving nearly enough information. You are describing joint pain, not muscle pain. Is that correct? So, the obvious question would be how tall are you and how much do you weigh?
Since you don't seem to be giving enough specifics to figure out what the pain is lets start off with the basics.
Look, start off slow and work up. If your legs are stick thin from working behind a desk for years, it is going to take a while to get the muscle strength back.
I would recommend follow a plan that you could find on the internet till you get a better handle on things. The last thing you want to do is not enjoy your running, you won't keep it up. Or, if you do try so hard, you injure yourself.
Also, vary running distances and pace during the week. Some slower longer and some faster and shorter. You could include speedwork into your training. Run five days a week. Not just three. Not 7. Wait to start running six days a week until you get better and understand things a bit better to avoid injury.
And heck, if your body starts to hurt all over when running that far, don't run that far. Your body will let you know when it is capable of running that far. It won't hurt.
First off, you are not giving nearly enough information. You are describing joint pain, not muscle pain. Is that correct? So, the obvious question would be how tall are you and how much do you weigh?
Since you don't seem to be giving enough specifics to figure out what the pain is lets start off with the basics.
Look, start off slow and work up. If your legs are stick thin from working behind a desk for years, it is going to take a while to get the muscle strength back.
I would recommend follow a plan that you could find on the internet till you get a better handle on things. The last thing you want to do is not enjoy your running, you won't keep it up. Or, if you do try so hard, you injure yourself.
Also, vary running distances and pace during the week. Some slower longer and some faster and shorter. You could include speedwork into your training. Run five days a week. Not just three. Not 7. Wait to start running six days a week until you get better and understand things a bit better to avoid injury.
And heck, if your body starts to hurt all over when running that far, don't run that far. Your body will let you know when it is capable of running that far. It won't hurt.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:46 am to thetempleowl
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You could include speedwork into your training.
probably not the *best* idea for a beginning runner
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:15 pm to LSU85750
I didn't see this mentioned but your running shoes play a roll in minor pain and stress in the legs.
You should keep log of how many miles you put on them, never wear them unless your running and even if they look "new" but you have put a hundred or so miles on them it might be time for a new pair.
Other then that a lot of good advice is listed above.
You should keep log of how many miles you put on them, never wear them unless your running and even if they look "new" but you have put a hundred or so miles on them it might be time for a new pair.
Other then that a lot of good advice is listed above.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:36 pm to djangochained
I just switched to Hokas and am never going back to my asics.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:44 pm to LSUfan4444
Thanks for all the replies. I have been fitted for shoes but I also think i need to switch to the Hokas. I am 5'11 165. I'm running over 20 miles per week so i think it's just too much too quick. It feels like joint paint not dehydration. I did a better job of hydrating my last run and didn't have the cramping but still had the pain in my feet, ankles, and knees. I'm stubborn and tend to take things too quickly or to the extreme so I'll go back and actually follow the plan's advice. I'm assuming the Novice 2 or Intermeditae Hal Higdon is an acceptable plan? Also, where do I find the Goo sticks or whatever they are?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:48 pm to LSUfan4444
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after my first Ironman
You a bad mofo. I had nop idea what an iron man really was until a couple months ago. Congrats on that. Impressive. I don't know how the human body endures that.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:54 pm to jwill37
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The pain is in my ankles, feet, and knees.
that's why we were made to walk and only run from fear.
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