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My Litmus test for this playoff committee.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:55 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:55 am
There is 15 spots seperating LSU and Ole Miss. That's a big gap. If Ole Miss loses to Auburn this week and we beat Bama next week are we in front of Ole Miss? I'm just not sure. We equalled their best win plus beat them head to head. I could see them dropping to about 13 and us climbing to around 15. That would cause them in my eyes to lose all credibility.
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:56 am to BOSCEAUX
First draft of top 25 was not impressive
Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:57 am to BOSCEAUX
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I could see them dropping to about 13 and us climbing to around 15.
And Bama to about 10 or so?
Or do you really see them dropping Bama further?Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:15 am to Ace Midnight
Bama would drop to about 11. This place would melt to the ground if the scenario played out and we were behind both.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:17 am to BOSCEAUX
This is why the playoff committee coming out with rankings mid-season is as dumb as when we had rankings during the season before. Sure, they do it because it's a ratings grabber but, from a practicality standpoint, it commits them to certain ranges.
I really don't see why the hell they can't just wait till after the last week of the season like they do in basketball. It makes no sense.
I really don't see why the hell they can't just wait till after the last week of the season like they do in basketball. It makes no sense.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:21 am to ShortyRob
They can't just come out the Monday after championship Saturday and drop the mic. 4 is way different than 64. State, FSU, MSU, Oregon......later.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:31 am to BOSCEAUX
quote:Meh. I don't see why not. Would there be whining? Of course. Will their be whining now? Of course.
They can't just come out the Monday after championship Saturday and drop the mic. 4 is way different than 64. State, FSU, MSU, Oregon......later.
At least if they waited, they wouldn't have to worry about thinks like "we can't raise a team 15 spots".
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:34 am to ShortyRob
The problem is we actually mauled Ole Miss Saturday night
Self inflicted turnovers and dropping about 4 Int's keep Ole Miss in the lead...
No mistakes = 27-0 type beat down
thus Ole Miss not #4 worthy ranking
I do think they beat Auburn because the are playing at home
Self inflicted turnovers and dropping about 4 Int's keep Ole Miss in the lead...
No mistakes = 27-0 type beat down
thus Ole Miss not #4 worthy ranking
I do think they beat Auburn because the are playing at home
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:35 am to BOSCEAUX
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We equalled their best win plus beat them head to head. I could see them dropping to about 13 and us climbing to around 15. That would cause them in my eyes to lose all credibility.
in that scenario, it would basically come down to what they see as more important
the head to head win, or the 41-7 loss to Auburn
it is hard to remove that 41-7 loss from a human mind
I wouldn't agree with it, but I could see the argument
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:35 am to BOSCEAUX
Honestly, I'm not sure if the committee GAF at this point about teams below #10 or so, since only the top 4 get in. I think we'll get a huge jump if we beat Bama, since then the committee will need to take us seriously.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:36 am to ApexTiger
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The problem is we actually mauled Ole Miss Saturday night
Self inflicted turnovers and dropping about 4 Int's keep Ole Miss in the lead...
Turnovers are part of the game champ. We didn't maul anyone. We did just enough to overcome the adversity. Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:36 am to ApexTiger
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The problem is we actually mauled Ole Miss Saturday night
Self inflicted turnovers and dropping about 4 Int's keep Ole Miss in the lead...
No mistakes = 27-0 type beat down
thus Ole Miss not #4 worthy ranking
how many of the committee do you think actually watched the game though? 1? 2?
most just saw the final score and/or final play
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:46 am to ShortyRob
Perfectly stated, Shorty.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:48 am to BOSCEAUX
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This place would melt to the ground if the scenario played out and we were behind both.
Not only do I think it is possible, it's likely. Recall the mental gymnastics to put Bama in the big game after we beat them in the regular season - that will be done - every year - with a media favorite - or 2 - Notre Dame, USCw, Bama, will always get bonus points for shite that happened before all of us were born.
Fact.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:56 am to BOSCEAUX
The entire Ranking system is flawed. Always has been. It's not about competition.
Notre Dame, for example. They played for the n.c. a couple of year back. Why, because they had not lost. Did that team look like they could even win a division in the conference alabama played in? nope. So you get there based off who you don't play.
Lsu with two losses destroyed ohio st with one loss.
It's not about the best teams, it's about a team with the least amount of L's w/o competition factored in. The only reason f.s.u. is undefeated at this point is who they have not played. They were suppose to destroy a lucky AU team last year. However, it took a last second play to win. Had they played the same games, F.S.U. would not have entered the n.c. without a loss.
Think about this. Notre dame's biggest win is a three loss stanford team. F.S.U. biggest win is Notre dame. Yet f.s.u. is in the top 2 due to no losses. However, Auburn lost to the number 1 team, who's beat three top 20 teams. Had f.s.u. played m.s.u. would they be undefeated? So Au is being punished for playing #1 and F.S.U. is rewarded for not playing #1.
Unless you compare apples to apples, it will always be flawed. It's always better not to lose than play someone who can beat you with this type of philosophy. Most times, the team in the n.f.l. that wins the super bowl didn't have the best record to end the season. Why? usually a weaker division, the other team wasn't healthy the entire year etc.
Notre Dame, for example. They played for the n.c. a couple of year back. Why, because they had not lost. Did that team look like they could even win a division in the conference alabama played in? nope. So you get there based off who you don't play.
Lsu with two losses destroyed ohio st with one loss.
It's not about the best teams, it's about a team with the least amount of L's w/o competition factored in. The only reason f.s.u. is undefeated at this point is who they have not played. They were suppose to destroy a lucky AU team last year. However, it took a last second play to win. Had they played the same games, F.S.U. would not have entered the n.c. without a loss.
Think about this. Notre dame's biggest win is a three loss stanford team. F.S.U. biggest win is Notre dame. Yet f.s.u. is in the top 2 due to no losses. However, Auburn lost to the number 1 team, who's beat three top 20 teams. Had f.s.u. played m.s.u. would they be undefeated? So Au is being punished for playing #1 and F.S.U. is rewarded for not playing #1.
Unless you compare apples to apples, it will always be flawed. It's always better not to lose than play someone who can beat you with this type of philosophy. Most times, the team in the n.f.l. that wins the super bowl didn't have the best record to end the season. Why? usually a weaker division, the other team wasn't healthy the entire year etc.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:59 am to BOSCEAUX
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They can't just come out the Monday after championship Saturday and drop the mic. 4 is way different than 64. State, FSU, MSU, Oregon......later.
People are going to absolutely bitch either way. This thread is the perfect example. Were talking about the potential of teams in the low teens, who would be totally irrelevant. Why not just come out with 4 after Championship Saturday, at least there they dont have to listen to bitching for a month leading up to it.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:59 am to BOSCEAUX
CFN had a nice article today about rankings that are off. They said LSU should be around #6 since the two losses are to #1 and #3 and a win against #4
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:07 am to BOSCEAUX
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There is 15 spots
Come on man
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:09 am to BOSCEAUX
Head to head isn't the only determining factor. It can't be because eventually you would just be running in circles. And if Auburn beats Ole Miss, you also wouldn't have "neutralized" their best win because then Ole Miss would be outside the top 10 and Alabama would still be top 5.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:11 am to LNCHBOX
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Turnovers are part of the game champ. We didn't maul anyone. We did just enough to overcome the adversity.
Turnovers caused by the defense (like strips and interceptions) are measurable "parts of the game."
Turnovers like flukey fumbles on the goal line and drives killed by "inadvertent whistles" are not.
If you objectively watched that game all the way through, it was easy to see who was in control for all four quarters.
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