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re: The boz 30 for 30

Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:19 am to
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:19 am to
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I was an 80's kid and that meant a few things. You had a rat tail for awhile (My mom would never let me grow one out, she was cockblocking my 4th grade swag), The baddest mofo in your school wore #44, you had your # shaved into the side of your head at least once along with some sort of line/jagged design. There were pornos in the woods somewhere around your neighborhood if you looked hard enough. You could actually get away with shite as long you and your friends kept quiet. You had to find how to get some Spanish Fly (which we now know was probably rohypnol), everything technology wise sucked and was awesome all at the same time, and back to the point the Boz was the illest SOB on the planet for about 2 years.


frick YES.

I remember my first stereo with a graphic equalizer. set me back more than an iphone today and all it did was something that a free app would do today.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:00 am to
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I was an 80's kid and that meant a few things.

You had a rat tail for awhile (My mom would never let me grow one out, she was cockblocking my 4th grade swag), The baddest mofo in your school wore #44, you had your # shaved into the side of your head at least once along with some sort of line/jagged design.

There were pornos in the woods somewhere around your neighborhood if you looked hard enough. You could actually get away with shite as long you and your friends kept quiet. You had to find how to get some Spanish Fly (which we now know was probably rohypnol), everything technology wise sucked and was awesome all at the same time, and back to the point the Boz was the illest SOB on the planet for about 2 years.



All of this. The Struggle of the 80s Kid. Ten year olds today want for nothing, and their character is the worse for it.
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:47 am to
I remember how great it was when you figured out exactly the starting points for all the songs on your favorite cassette and could rewind /fast forward to that exact spot
Posted by MWP
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:10 am to
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Reading the stuff they did makes the craziness of FSU seem tame.


Yep, along with the shite going on at the U, probably makes everything going on now seem tame.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:28 am to
2 swatch watches and a coke rugby shirt
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:29 am to
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I'm a fan of the story, but this is about as poorly produced 30 for 30 that I've seen.


I was expecting more. I guess there just wasnt much to tell.
His dad pushed him hard, became a good college player, ego got out of control, ran wild, flopped in the NFL. Now regrets it all. Basically nothing we didnt already know.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12350 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:40 am to
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Nobody really talks about Nebraska and Oklahoma no longer playing



I was surprised that didn't get more coverage when Nebraska left the Big 12. That used to be an enormous game when Switzer and Osborne were on opposite sidelines.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:42 am to
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How in the frick did Barry Switzer just allow him to act like that?



Switzer was the ultimate loose ship/player's coach who kept them reined in just enough to be focused on dominating opponents.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12350 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:57 am to
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I was expecting more. I guess there just wasnt much to tell.
His dad pushed him hard, became a good college player, ego got out of control, ran wild, flopped in the NFL. Now regrets it all. Basically nothing we didnt already know.


Yeah, when this one was announced I remember wondering what they could possibly do with this story they haven't already done a few times. The Marinovich Project already did the "dad pushed too hard and son flamed out" angle, and OU/Switzer were already featured on the Marcus Dupree doc. Plus, they already touched on the wild west days of 1980s college football in The U.

This one honestly should have been one of the 30 For 30 shorts.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:27 am to
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quote:I was an 80's kid and that meant a few things. You had a rat tail for awhile (My mom would never let me grow one out, she was cockblocking my 4th grade swag), The baddest mofo in your school wore #44, you had your # shaved into the side of your head at least once along with some sort of line/jagged design. There were pornos in the woods somewhere around your neighborhood if you looked hard enough. You could actually get away with shite as long you and your friends kept quiet. You had to find how to get some Spanish Fly (which we now know was probably rohypnol), everything technology wise sucked and was awesome all at the same time, and back to the point the Boz was the illest SOB on the planet for about 2 years. All of this. The Struggle of the 80s Kid. Ten year olds today want for nothing, and their character is the worse for it.


No kidding man. A 10 year old today has no idea what it was like to scavenge the woods for dirty mags. To find them you'd track the older kids like you would track deer. Look for empty cans of busch lite, particularly if it looked like they had been used to smoke pot. You had to earn it. Today they just go online with their smartphone.
Posted by Statsattack
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:44 am to
i didnt grow up watching the boz was born in late 80's so most of story was refreshing
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:03 pm to
In his book, Bosworth ripped Cassias pretty bad, and it's been documented that that book was almost pure fiction. Plus, with him getting suspended for using steroids, Bosworth hurt his teammates by not being eligble for the huge bowl game. Cassias has every right in the world to be pissed at him. The Boz was a prick as a person & a jerk as a teammate. Picture the Boz on today's social media.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:08 pm to
What is Hilger and Ward's connection? One was a QB for oSu and one was a K for Texas.

The Migliazzo and Casillias stories needed to be told. I never saw Sonny Brown, Cabaness, or Dixon either. They were captains on that OU team.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158719 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:26 pm to
the storage scenes with he and his son almost ruined this one
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11121 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:40 pm to
True. So obviously fake that it made you wonder what else was fake about the whole episode.

Remarkable how the son didnt look to have an athletic bone in his body.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:41 pm to
the fake finding stuff..."O i haven't seen this in years, this shirt ruined my life." followed by fake crying. Just total shite and wasn't needed.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:56 pm to
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i didnt grow up watching the boz was born in late 80's so most of story was refreshing


I watched it late last night and thought it was just okay. I felt like one of the main reasons I watched was to see the part about him and Bo Jackson going head-to-head.

I didn't know who The Boz was back then.

The earliest player I can ever remember watching or hearing about sometimes was Derrick Thomas.

just depends on where you're from sometimes I guess. Had I been from Oklahoma or Texas I might have thought The Boz was a big deal.

I honestly didn't know who he was until several years later. But back then, my exposure to college sports was pretty limited.

I hardly even watched college ball because I'd spend all of Saturday at the ball park. I'd watch all the other teams play after my game was over.

I mainly just ended up watching pro football on TV back then on Sundays.

If I couldn't find a pickup game going on in the neighborhood that day, I'd stay at home and watch the Saints.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12350 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:57 pm to
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the fake finding stuff..."O i haven't seen this in years, this shirt ruined my life." followed by fake crying. Just total shite and wasn't needed.



That whole storage angle was ridiculous. And surely that wasn't the actual shirt.

I went back and rewatched it, and it struck me as a pretty terrible 30 For 30 in general. For starters, it came off as one big transparent attempt by him to re-market himself (which is what Tony Casillas claims) and get himself back in the public eye. It just felt like one big PR plug for Brian Bosworth, and he seemed, for the most part, to blame everyone but himself. Daddy didn't love him enough, the agent took advantage of him, he was "being pulled in different directions," all that crap just seemed like a shirking of responsibility by him and fabricated excuses. Plus, he kept talking about how he was actually a great teammate, wasn't really on steroids, and kept boasting about being a good student and never getting arrested.

Plus, the guy has made a living from acting for a quarter century, so it's not like it's out of the question that the whole thing was contrived. When he was doing things like looking at his old stat sheets and mementos his dad kept and was saying things like "Dad, why couldn't you just watch the games" and "it was never enough for you," I literally muttered to myself "oh for the love of God." All the boo-hooing seemed forced and felt like one big act. Like Tony Casillas said on his radio show, the whole thing just reeks of being a shallow attempt at a self-made redemption story.

I'm really hoping this angle of players and coaches making puff pieces about themselves to bolster their legacies or tell their own story isn't the direction the 30 For 30 series is headed in, because that's pretty much what happened with the pieces about Maurice Clarett and Jim Tressel, Tonya Harding, and even the U.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28251 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:14 pm to
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My favorite OU story is when Buster Rhymes got hit with a snowball and whipped out an uzi in front of the dorms and fired it off


Know how I know you're white?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:31 pm to
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That whole storage angle was ridiculous. And surely that wasn't the actual shirt.

I went back and rewatched it, and it struck me as a pretty terrible 30 For 30 in general. For starters, it came off as one big transparent attempt by him to re-market himself (which is what Tony Casillas claims) and get himself back in the public eye. It just felt like one big PR plug for Brian Bosworth, and he seemed, for the most part, to blame everyone but himself. Daddy didn't love him enough, the agent took advantage of him, he was "being pulled in different directions," all that crap just seemed like a shirking of responsibility by him and fabricated excuses. Plus, he kept talking about how he was actually a great teammate, wasn't really on steroids, and kept boasting about being a good student and never getting arrested.

Plus, the guy has made a living from acting for a quarter century, so it's not like it's out of the question that the whole thing was contrived. When he was doing things like looking at his old stat sheets and mementos his dad kept and was saying things like "Dad, why couldn't you just watch the games" and "it was never enough for you," I literally muttered to myself "oh for the love of God." All the boo-hooing seemed forced and felt like one big act. Like Tony Casillas said on his radio show, the whole thing just reeks of being a shallow attempt at a self-made redemption story.

I'm really hoping this angle of players and coaches making puff pieces about themselves to bolster their legacies or tell their own story isn't the direction the 30 For 30 series is headed in, because that's pretty much what happened with the pieces about Maurice Clarett and Jim Tressel, Tonya Harding, and even the U.


All of this. That fake crying was ridiculous. His son was even laughing during that shite. They could have done way better with that 30 for 30 because the Boz story is compelling as frick. But like you said it was a shallow attempt to re-brand.
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