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Would you live in a land called Reagan?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:10 am
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What does conservative columnist and former Reagan aide Douglas MacKinnon see when he surveys the current state of affairs? A world, he says, that’s been “turned upside down if you do believe in traditional values.” Just look, for instance, at those uppity gays and their demand for equal treatment.
“If you happen to refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple because it goes against your religious beliefs, you can be driven out of business,” MacKinnon told right-wing radio host Janet Mefferd yesterday. “If you’re a football commentator and you happen to just say innocently that maybe I wouldn’t have drafted a gay football player because I wouldn’t want to deal with the distraction, many people on the left will try to drive you out of your job as well.”
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MacKinnon reckons that we don’t need all of the former Confederate states to secede for this purely hypothetical, totally academic, completely theoretical project to work.
“We look at what states would be viable in terms of doing something like this. In fact, what states would provide sort of the new landmass for a new republic dedicated to traditional values. And the consensus was that the three best states in the union would be South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida,” MacKinnon told Mefferd, citing the states’ population, natural resources, infrastructure and proximity to the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico.
No Texas? There’s reason enough for that, MacKinnon explains.
“[T]here have been a number of incursions into Texas and other places from some of the folks in Mexico,” he said.
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“If it moves beyond the academic, then it’s one of those things, too, where obviously now – in the age of instant communication – the world would also know about this country,” MacKinnon said. “The interim name for the country, by the way, is Reagan.”
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“A growing number of our leaders seem determined to erase our borders,” he wrote in a recent syndicated column promoting his book, “do away with the rule-of-law, expand the nanny state into a theology, bankrupt or punish American companies in the name of fighting climate change, do away with the 2nd Amendment, censor or demonize the history of western civilization and replace it with multiculturalism, give every kid a trophy and turn them into wimps, continue to support the completely unfunded public-employee pensions which are destroying the financial solvency of cities, counties, and states across our nation, add billions every day to our $17 trillion in debt, destroy our health-care system to substitute socialized medicine, vilify fossil fuels, and attack all faith in God with a particular and unhinged bias against the Christian faith.”
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“President Lincoln waged an illegal war that was, in fact, not declared against the South after the South basically did what we’re talking about in this book now in terms of peacefully, legally and constitutionally leaving the union,” MacKinnon said.
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This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 10:32 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:35 am to Green Chili Tiger
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“A growing number of our leaders seem determined to erase our borders,”
True
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“President Lincoln waged an illegal war that was, in fact, not declared against the South after the South basically did what we’re talking about in this book now in terms of peacefully, legally and constitutionally leaving the union,” MacKinnon said.
Also true.
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In response to the question, I would need to know a little more about this land called Reagan than just its apparent hostility towards homosexuals. I would tend to not be in favor as I don't like institutional discrimination.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:39 am to Green Chili Tiger
quote:Yeah, taking Fort Sumter and calling it theirs was no biggie. Totally peaceful and legal.
the South basically did what we’re talking about in this book now in terms of peacefully, legally and constitutionally leaving the union,”
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:42 am to ballscaster
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Yeah, taking Fort Sumter and calling it theirs was no biggie.
Actually, once SC seceded, the USA was occupying its sovereign territory. Lincoln refused to allow the forces to leave, and actually moved to resupply the facility to allow the garrison to remain longer.
He provoked the encounter.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:42 am to Green Chili Tiger
So he wants to establish a country based on homophobia and call it Reagan?
No I wouldn't want to live there.
No I wouldn't want to live there.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:44 am to The Spleen
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So he wants to establish a country based on homophobia and call it Reagan?
1. it's stupid that you think that...but you're a liberal...soooooo
2. "homophobia" is not a real word
3. where do you live now?
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:55 am to ballscaster
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Good.
So, you agree that Lincoln actually started it.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:56 am to Choctaw
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. "homophobia" is not a real word
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ho·mo·pho·bia noun \?ho-m?-'fo-be-?\
Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
— ho·mo·pho·bic adjective
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:59 am to Green Chili Tiger
Your thread should be titled:
Would you live in a land called Douglas MacKinnon?
It would be more accurate and honest.
Would you live in a land called Douglas MacKinnon?
It would be more accurate and honest.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:03 am to Green Chili Tiger
As long as I don't have to wander in the desert for 40 years to get there.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:06 am to Green Chili Tiger
I don't need a paradise from gay people.
I need an environment free from the growth of utterly stupid governance where cookies shaped like guns are dangerous and forbidden, gun laws shown not to work are celebrated as answers, destroying human life is celebrated as individual liberty, money is continually pumped to people who produce nothing in their communities, society is forbidden from identifying characteristics of violent criminals for fear of offending people who look like them, etc.
Also, wouldn't call it Reagan. I like RR, but I don't do the Reagan worship or the part where we pretend he would align well with the modern far right.
I need an environment free from the growth of utterly stupid governance where cookies shaped like guns are dangerous and forbidden, gun laws shown not to work are celebrated as answers, destroying human life is celebrated as individual liberty, money is continually pumped to people who produce nothing in their communities, society is forbidden from identifying characteristics of violent criminals for fear of offending people who look like them, etc.
Also, wouldn't call it Reagan. I like RR, but I don't do the Reagan worship or the part where we pretend he would align well with the modern far right.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:06 am to Green Chili Tiger
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ho·mo·pho·bia
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irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
this is the part that makes it a made up word to push an agenda
no part of the definition of "phobia" mentions discrimination
and i've never seen anyone with a fear of homosexuals
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:08 am to Green Chili Tiger
Sounds pretty good to me.
And you're confusing religious freedom with homophobia, and ignoring everything else listed in a totally dishonest reductionist petty way.
And you're confusing religious freedom with homophobia, and ignoring everything else listed in a totally dishonest reductionist petty way.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:09 am to udtiger
quote:I am actually physically unable to participate in a discussion this immature. "Nuh-uh. Lincoln started it" is so far beneath me that I can't comprehend this type of debate tactic. I apologize for being overqualified for a discussion of the Civil War with you.
So, you agree that Lincoln actually started it.
Meltdown: Day 54619
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:17 am to ballscaster
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I am actually physically unable to participate in a discussion this immature. "Nuh-uh. Lincoln started it" is so far beneath me that I can't comprehend this type of debate tactic. I apologize for being overqualified for a discussion of the Civil War with you.
Sure, okay.
Your response to my noting your statement was incorrect was to then say that Lincoln provoking the attack on Ft. Sumter was "good."
That definitely shows you are leaps and bounds above me in a discussion of the Civil War.
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