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re: Why are blacks vilified for not toeing the Obama line?

Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:10 am to
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:10 am to
This time, Midnight, you are wrong. Go back and look at ommg's responses to me in this thread, and if you are being fair, you will see that he has done nothing but attack me. But, if you would rather score brownie points with him, then I guess you accomplished your purpose.

If ommg really wanted to show me where I've been "wrong" in this thread, why doesn't he have the courage to respond to what I actually said? If he thinks blacks took the high road regarding Trayvon Martin, Ferguson, MO, or if he thinks it's admirable that 95% of blacks still support Obama, he's free to say that. But you know what? He can't refute what I've said, so he makes up a stupid word to deflect and avoid responding to specific points.

You missed the mark by a mile this time, Ace. Did you do it on purpose? Frankly, im beginning to wonder.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42474 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Why aren't black people out in the streets proclaiming "Don't try to take an officer's gun while he is sitting inside his car, you might get yourself killed!"

Black people should be ticked off for being used

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Many of us are.


Bless you sir!! The future of the nation depends on your efforts being successful.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:14 am to
:czarofblackobsession:
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33935 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:16 am to
I suppose it is a racist perspective in that it places emphasis on race itself. The critics view symbolic support of the first black president to be more important than ideas or individual autonomy in political decision-making or perspective-forming.

Very narrow-minded. And I say this as a liberal.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:17 am to
Great post, ommg. Don't worry; Ace will be along in a minute to salute it as the most insightful, detailed post of the day
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:20 am to
Okay Czar, what do you want to discuss? Why do blacks suck so much?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:20 am to
Dude, you are blacksessed. You're in these threads more than all the other black regular posters combined

I never even see you on the other boards. You and i may vote similarly, but you are a horrid poster.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42474 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:27 am to
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My answer? Remove R and D from the ballots. Period.
Make voters (to include this poster) actually know the candidates. No more straight ticket voting of sheep being herded. Know the issues and vote accordingly.


I agree - I believe we need to make voting a demonstration of thoughtfulness and purpose - not just a whim.

No - or very limited and highly controlled - early voting. No wholesale registration. Strict ID requirements to vote. Rigorous scrubbing of voter registration roles to remove dead people. No allowing busloads of people being herded into the polls.

As you said - remove the party affiliations - no straight party voting options. Witht the advent of electronic voting machines - every ballot could be in a random order - make someone be able to find the name in a list that is not alphabetical.

And yes - some sort of anti-ignorance test. Anyone who wants to vote should be able to demonstrate some awareness of how the nation is governed. At least should be able to answer some very elementary questions - make those questions be a threshold before the vote is counted. If you cannot name the 3 branches of government, for example, you can 'vote' but it just won't be counted.

Voting should be a solemn and thoughtful act - not a spur of the moment frivolity.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:27 am to
Good job, third. I've done nothing but talk specifics on this thread, but all I get is "blackobsessed" and "you're a horrid poster."

If you or ommg disagree with my contention that the majority of blacks were on the wrong side regarding Trayvon or Ferguson, MO, then why don't you simply disagree with me?

Point to one thing I've said in this thread that you disagree with, third. Simply attacking me without merit is bullshite.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Point to one thing I've said in this thread that you disagree with

quote:

Here's another question that everybody will dismiss. When are black people EVER going to be on the right side of any issue?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:34 am to
How about you tell me what you disagree with in my posts that are germane to the OP?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Good job, third. I've done nothing but talk specifics on this thread, but all I get is "blackobsessed" and "you're a horrid poster." If you or ommg disagree with my contention that the majority of blacks were on the wrong side regarding Trayvon or Ferguson, MO, then why don't you simply disagree with me? Point to one thing I've said in this thread that you disagree with, third. Simply attacking me without merit is bull shite.


You lose the argument because you're not careful with language. You made 4 or 5 posts that say "the majority" and made one where you basically said "black people are always wrong about everything." That's a dumb post. It either belies an issue you have with black people or it demonstrates that you're dumb. I'll let you choose.

Secondly, you say you're here to discuss and learn. But you won't dialogue. You won't learn anything from anyone. When someone makes a decent counterpoint to whatever you're saying (especially on the issue of race), you don't absorb it or try to synthesize it. You just tell them why they're wrong. It demonstrates pretty clearly that you're not here to discuss or learn.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:41 am to
Were black people right on the Trayvon Martin case?

Were black people right on Ferguson, MO?

Was Eric Holder right to go to Ferguson, MO, and say, "I'm here as a black man"?

Was Obama right to go before the UN and refer to Ferguson as an example of injustice in America?

Was Obama right to play the race card when he was asked why his approval rating had dropped 15 points in YEAR FIVE of his presidency?

Those are the things I've actually discussed in this thread, ommg, and neither you or third have responded to any of that. All I've gotten is "blackobsessed" and "you're a horrid poster."

Very impressive responses.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Were black people right on the Trayvon Martin case? Were black people right on Ferguson, MO?


Exhibit A
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:43 am to
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Because when someone questions your belief system, you defend it until death.


No matter how many times you are told squares A and B are the same color, you're biased by the pattern and objects around it blurring the truth.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69883 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:44 am to
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KCT



I think you need a black timeout, and this is coming from someone who agrees with you a lot.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Were black people right on the Trayvon Martin case?


All black people were not in agreement on that issue.

quote:

Were black people right on Ferguson, MO?

Was Eric Holder right to go to Ferguson, MO, and say, "I'm here as a black man"?


I LIVE in Missouri and there are plenty of black people up here tired of the Ferguson shenanigans, but they get shouted down--and not entirely just by other black people, i might add.

quote:

Was Obama right to play the race card when he was asked why his approval rating had dropped 15 points in YEAR FIVE of his presidency?


No.

quote:

Those are the things I've actually discussed in this thread, ommg, and neither you or third have responded to any of that. All I've gotten is "blackobsessed" and "you're a horrid poster."


You are a horrid poster because you come into a thread about black voting patterns spouting off at the mouth about Ferguson, while ignoring the discussion going on around you that actually addresses the OP.


Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Were black people right on the Trayvon Martin case? Were black people right on Ferguson, MO? Was Eric Holder right to go to Ferguson, MO, and say, "I'm here as a black man"? Was Obama right to go before the UN and refer to Ferguson as an example of injustice in America? Was Obama right to play the race card when he was asked why his approval rating had dropped 15 points in YEAR FIVE of his presidency? Those are the things I've actually discussed in this thread, ommg, and neither you or third have responded to any of that. All I've gotten is "blackobsessed" and "you're a horrid poster." Very impressive responses.

The reason why you suck is because you use any "black" thread as an excuse to go on a rant about black people. Seriously, wtf does Trayvon, Ferguson, or Holder's statements have to do with the OP at all? Nothing. But you bring it up bc you love venting about blacks. That's why your the Czar of black obsession.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

this is coming from someone who agrees with you a lot

Yea, not a good look.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89453 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:56 am to
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Great post, ommg. Don't worry; Ace will be along in a minute to salute it as the most insightful, detailed post of the day


I'm not going to do that because y'all get into namecalling pretty quickly. You are coming dangerously close to doing it with me. I know we've moved beyond that, but I guess I would have been called a n-word "lover" back in the day - in fact I was. I had black friends (*GASP*) and even a black roommate. In fact, there was about a year or so, when I was pretty much the only white guy running in our circle.

Having said that - you're falling into the classic trap - herding "blacks" like they're this monolithic entity. Tbird and ommg are not who you think they are, nor do black folks unanimously consider Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, or even BHO their spokesperson or the "Emperor of Black People". In fact, if you took the time, you would probably find you have more in common with Tbird and BHP (heck, maybe even OMMG) - than you do with Boston and Los Angeles, educated white liberal elite idiots - a LOT more in common.

However, it is in the interests of the powers-that-be to keep us all in nice, convenient little boxes until election day, so they can herd us into the voting booth on their whim - not ours. Occasionally an election goes against form (1994), and this one may as well, but I just find it an oversimplification to consider black people as this homogenous mass of sagging, dope smoking, drug dealing, gun-toting, murdering, rapping Lil Boosies.

Why? Because I know better.
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