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Sub $500 laptop recommendation

Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:24 pm
Old laptop finally died on me. Looking to grab something from best buy after work < $500.

Mainly used for Internet and light programming, nothing intense. Maybe some music but honestly I use spotify most the time.

The cheaper the better. TIA
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14852 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14852 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:20 pm to
any of the Lenovo refurbs are good deals
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:23 pm to
Was looking for something in store. That looks good but I need it tomorrow at the latest
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 7:01 pm to


Never, ever sort computers by review rating or weed out low-reviewed models.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48888 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:30 pm to
Really? Why?
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13536 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:22 pm to
Computer ratings on computers at websites like Best Buy and Amazon are useless. People give 1-2 stars just because stuff like "Windows 8 Sucks arse", "Does not come with DVD Drive." I like to read the reviews and see what the negative complaints are and go from there.
Posted by TheShwenz
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
1381 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

People give 1-2 stars just because stuff like "Windows 8 Sucks arse", "Does not come with DVD Drive."


Hate that crap. Goes both ways too... I've seen 5 star reviews from customers who haven't even bought the product yet. They just say "It looks great! Can't wait! 5 stars!"
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:49 pm to
This rule could be applied to most products in general, but it's especially true for PCs I find. For one thing, people are stupid, and computers are easy to frick up. Reviews are always written with emotion behind them. Very few people who are neutrally satisfied with a product are going to make the effort to write a review. You have to be either exceptionally overwhelmed by the unexpectedly high quality of a product, or pissed off about something. Notice how most customer reviews are either all or nothing -- perfect 5 stars or 1 star. The tell-tale sign of a moron: When the review mentions the phrase "nothing but problems" and gives very few supporting details. It means the customer fricked up something and got flustered in several clumsy attempts to correct it. I've seen so many 1-star reviews bitching about overly sensitive track pads, screens that are too bright, WiFi that won't connect to their home network but works on their neighbors just fine, power supply too bulky, or they're expecting too much performance for the specs (gaming on Intel HD 4000, for example).

Second, inevitably there will be a 1-star review that says, "I have no idea if it's a good laptop or not because it arrived DOA! I emailed ASUS/HP/Dell/Acer/Lenovo/etc. for a replacement. Hopefully second time's a charm!" You might call that a legitimate review, but all it means is something decided to fail internally between the last shutdown and the next startup. Literally zero PC makers are immune to spontaneous component failure despite extensive QA checks, and they all get their components from the same places. Just because one laptop has a DOA review and another one doesn't means nothing in terms of reliability.

And overall, the review system is often misused. They'll use it to bitch about the vendor's slow shipping, a customer service call that didn't go well, a bad rebate experience, general fanboy trolling, or something else that has nothing to do with the quality of the product. On the flip side, 5-star reviews can be just as stupid. People who don't own the product, company shills balancing out the negatives, or just general "I like that the keyboard has lights lol5stars."

I distinctly remember a poster here who initially rejected my PC recommendation based on the reviews. I walked him through every single negative review to show that 100% of them were invalid. It was only 3 or 4 bad reviews, but because there weren't many reviews of the product, they dragged down the overall rating significantly. So, if you search only for 4 or 5-star products, you eliminate virtually everything but the products that are lucky to haven't yet been shite on by a stupid, pissed-off customer.

If you're going to make a purchase based on customer rating, you absolutely must read and evaluate the reviews. Sometimes you'll find some totally legitimate issues that multiple reviewers point out. Most of the time, you'll just find garbage.

EDIT: Most of this is summarized by posters above, but I was already typing this out, so I decided to just finish it.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13536 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:08 pm to
FYI here is how reviews can be misleading. Not saying the laptop is good or bad but this is some of the usless crap people put in reviews

quote:

It really sucked to have to return this laptop. Everything about it was great EXCEPT the OS. I HATE Windows 8. It feels very unsecured and I don't think it's right that my laptop should have to be linked in any way to my email. I mean, if that's your thing great! But I don't know why it's not optional. If it was feasible to switch to Windows 7 without spending $300 or so extra with Geek Squad trying to swap it over, we definitely would have done so, but dangit Windows 8! You totally suck.
Computer is great but you hate Windows 8. Does not sound like a computer issue to me.

quote:


Parts Break 2 months after warranty expires
What's great about it: Great Display
What's not so great: Hard drive needs to be replaced
Hard drive breaks and they will only fix if I pay.
Beause you didn't get the extended warranty, this makes the computer suck how?

LINK
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:17 pm to
Forgot this gem:

quote:

First time using a non-Intel device, so it just seems slower to me


100% of those reviews are invalid.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:38 pm to
Toshiba makes some good bargain level laptops. Ours is 2 years old and was $325, still runs like a champ. Better than our 2 month old $1200 ASUS at times.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:00 am to
Yeah I originally sorted by ratings but noticed it wasn't the best method.

Gonna swing by and check out the lower end toshibas, lenovos and acers today
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:50 am to
Don't forget ASUS, Dell, and HP.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3131 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 12:25 pm to
I picked up a little 14" Toshiba from Best Buy a few months ago and love it. I think it was $499. No touch screen, but metal case, backlit keyboard etc.
They have cheaper versions as well. I think pretty much any of the Toshiba, Asus, Acer budget laptops at Best Buy will be fine. Just pick one you like. In that price point there isn't much difference quality wise IMO.
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